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This is a picture of my VM still that I just built with the exception of the Reflux condenser. The yellow stick is a yard stick.

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Thanks to kiwistiller for suggesting the design that I used as a pattern for a lot of my still. new_ moonshiner built the Reflux condenser for me. We went with the vertical type with a coil inside with the slant plates added for foreshots removal (sorry no photo available). He also gave me a lot of tips and help along the way. Thanks again new_moonshiner.

rad14701 suggested a 4' column since I was using 2" copper pipe. After building it, I discovered it would make my set up too tall for the room I was using so I had to remove about a foot.

I put the brass gate valve I had bought to use in my water well parts box after JethroBodine posted what would happen when you used brass, and replaced it with a SS one. Also note in the picture below that I used Hawke's idea of grinding out the pipe stop in the bottom of that union which is brass. Hawke mentioned that what I am calling brass may in reality be bronze.

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The top of the union is copper so very little, if any, vapor is exposed to brass in this connection.

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For the liebig condenser I designed myself I used 1" copper pipe for the water jacket with a reducer at the bottom to close the water jacket

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and a bushing as the vapor input and to close the top of the water jacket. Half of the big end of the bushing is in the coupler and the other half in the tee with 6 inches of ½ pipe connected to the small end pointing down toward the bottom.

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I used a reducer to connect the 3/8" pipe to the ½" pipe because I wanted 3/8" inch pipe the rest of the way to the output end. I could not find any reducers or bushings that went from 1" down to 3/8". They would only go down to 1/2".

In case some of you do not know a bushing is basically the same as a reducer except the OD of the big end of a bushing is the same as the OD of the pipe in question while the ID of a reducer is the same as the OD of the pipe in question.

Before I started this project I had never worked with copper pipe and fittings, and never used one of those little propane torches to solder, but as olddog pointed out all it takes is practice. I now am comfortable sweating copper pipe and fittings, and doing a fairly decent job. One thing that did not take any practice was to learn how to get my thumb out of that propane torch flame damn fast, and not to ever put it back in.

Thanks to all for your encouragement and help, and a special thanks to LWTCS for pointing out a flaw I had in posting pictures on forums which has now been corrected.

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That wasn't me Bert. I think that was Barney.
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Sorry FWTCS and Barney Fife. It was Barney, but FWTCS you did give me much needed encouragement to which I owe you a big thanks.

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So how much money you think you got into what we see in the pics?
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Oh, good grief! Truthfully, I have lost track. If you are thinking about building one similar and money is an issue, forget about it unless you can scrounge the parts. The price of those copper pipes and fittings is outrageous.

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Bert,
Your stuff looks extremely well put together.

If you think about it, That head is a lifer. Even more so an heirloom.

Your gonna get soom great service outta those peices.
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The Reflus condenser is complete, and should be shipped in a few days. I hate to even think this, but that man does such artistic work that I may put it in a shadow box and hang it on the wall. Not really, but he does do good work, and I can't wait to start using it.

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Did you get a ferment going for a cleaning run yet?
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Yes, as a matter of fact I did a strip run without the head with a turbo charged sugar wash just fermented for that purpose. The product of that run is ready to be diluted and run to clean again!!!

Gonna use that product to quince the thirst of some fire ants that set up housekeeping in my front yard.

You guys are doing a great job of keeping beginners like me straight. Keep up the good work.

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Nice work Ammo Man, your well on your way.
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Very nice job, AM. When I first saw the pic, I noticed the SS :ebiggrin: . My work is more of a "function not fashion" venture, but I do appreciate someone who does both :mrgreen: . Keep posting shiney copper pics and may you have many wonderful hours getting a nice patina on that new rig.
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Nice rig, ammo man. AND, nice scale too. :D

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Yup, nice job.

And you made the measuring stick guy happy too. :eugeek: :ebiggrin:
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Thanks fellows for all the nice compliments.

As I stated up above new_moonshiner has built my still head (reflux condenser), and it has been shipped. I should receive it in the next two or three days. He volunteered, and I accepted because I wanted those slanted plates, and felt like my skills had not advanced enough to build the still head with them. By the way new_moonshiner would not accept any pay for doing this. I sent him some parts and supplies, and will pay shipping, but that is all. Not many people would do that for a complete stranger, and I want all of you to know that I really appreciate what he has done for me.

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The still head (reflux condenser) that new_moonshiner built for me came in today. Damn, that man does good work! And the design is unreal.

I've still got to install a thermometer in the column, and then I will be ready to start learning how to use it. Of course, I will run a batch or two of junk (turbo yeast distillate) through it to clean.

I have read the books and posts, but I hope some of you master distillers and others will give me some pointers first hand in this thread on some of the major things I should be aware of.

I have a batch of Smiley's bourbon whiskey mash just started. Pitched the yeast about 8 pm tonight. This probably will be the first real test.

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