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Blond ale all grain help

Postby yakattack » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:49 am

Hey guys. While my 4 Inch gear is being redone slowly I am finally going to get a keg of beer put up.

Got my grain and hops.
Here's my grain bill for a 15 gallon beer batch

33lbs of pale 2 row.
1.5 lbs Crystal malt 20L
1.05 Oz of nugget hops( pellet form)
1.5 oz Willamette hops (pellet form)


Recipe specifics
Batch size. 18.9 gallons
Total grain 34.5 lbs
Anticipated og = 1.050
Srm = 4.3
Ibu =20.1
Boil time = 60 min

Pre boil amounts
Evap rates 15% hour
Pre boil wort size 22.23 gallons
Pre boil gravity 1.042

Now here is where this get difficult.

I don't have the best beer setup
I have a 15 gallon ss pot that I can add a drain valve to but don't have a false bottom.. though I'm sure I can make one. Can I use wood for a false bottom. ?

I also have an 8 gallon pot with a drain valve and a false bottom. So I am considering doing mashing and sparing in the 8 gallon. Then do final boil ( and start he boil as soon as the first batch is sparged )

Any thoughts? Protical suggestions? Should I be incorporating a protein rest with this recipe?

Yak.
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Re: Blond ale all grain help

Postby bitter » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:31 pm

Yak,

This is a good blonde http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/forum ... hp?t=25429 just make sure you adjust for efficiency he has his at 95% and your most likely about 75% if not made beer before

For mashing why not turn a cooler into a mash ton? just need a valve and the other stainless tube from re-enforced water hose.. the outer stainless
This http://brewology101.com/tutorials/simpl ... rom-cooler

As for your boil I don't think you will boil that much off with even a 90 minute boil. I only loose about 1 gallon on 10g batch with a really hard boil 11g preboil.

When I make 12g batches my boil kettle it to the top! and a much milder boil and end up with say 1/2g fo boil off.

You can also do a more concentrated wort... and then dilute with boiled steralized water also some guys make 10g batchs on 8 gallon pot making 6g of higher gravity beer and dilute it.. you could do that. Only thing is sugars scale of but hop utilization is different.. so that part can be tricky.

I just made earlier in the week 12g of dry Irish stout. Fermenting with 1084 right now
75% efficiency (I was too high so dumped some wort doooh hit over 85% efficiency)
OG (1.036 - 1.050)
IBU 36
% (4.0% - 5.0%)
fg (1.007 - 1.011)

16 lbs Marris Otter
4.5 lbs Flaked Barley
1.75 lbs 500L Roasted Barley
4oz East Kent Goldings for about 36 IBU
Yeast Irish Ale Wyeast 1084 or White lab WLP004
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Re: Blond ale all grain help

Postby bilgriss » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:26 pm

Your grain bill looks similar to one I use for a stock IPA base. Vary the finishing and dry hops at the end, and you can get a lot of variations on the theme. I usually mash that at about 152F, but I use a 10gallon cooler to hold the temperature at a constant.

I never worry about whirlpooling or drain valves, but I don't do larger than 6 gallon batches. I chill, pour into a 6 gallon bucket, then into a 6.5 gallon carboy. Plenty of aeration from the two transfers, even for relatively high gravity beers. I'm not sure how to advise you regarding your two kettles, but I can highly recommend a simple cooler with braided hose. I do love a high-tech setup, but having never had one I believe my beer is just as good from very simple equipment.
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Re: Blond ale all grain help

Postby yakattack » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:35 pm

Well after having a long convo with bitter, I turned a spare chest cooler into a mash tun for the cost of a braided ss line and a 99 cent in line valve. So for 15 dollars I have a insulated mash tun that should handle a full 15 gallon batch of beer. Was soldering on my ball valve to the kettle and over heated it and blew the seal out of the valve. 5 bucks tomorrow will replace that and I'm 100 percent ready to brew once I do the cleaning protocols.

Also while at the hbs shop I was gifted by the owner 5 gallons of a red wine that didn't make the cut. He was trying out a new brand to carry ar the shop and he didnt care for it so decided not to sell it. So I have 5 gallons of sub par red wine at aproxx 12 percent etho. This will either be a 2 plate brandy or vodka. Depending on the way the new make brandy smells.

Beer update to come soon.
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Re: Blond ale all grain help

Postby bitter » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:46 pm

Hope your beer is fermenting away right now. My Stout is just about done fermenting.. Going to take a gravity reading tomorrow I think. Its starting to clear also.. so that is a good sign.

I use my mash tun for making booner's or any other all grain using enzymes. Takes about 2 days for mash to pitch yeast the cooler holds temp so well.

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Re: Blond ale all grain help

Postby yakattack » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:49 am

Well I'm still slacking. Or rather not slacking but keep hitting roadblocks. My induction element shit the bed on me so I'm replacing that today. Brew day today. 2 weeks to keg. 3 to tap
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Re: Blond ale all grain help

Postby still_stirrin » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:07 am

yakattack wrote: My induction element.... shit the bed on me....

Now that’s quite the word picture right there. :crazy:
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Re: Blond ale all grain help

Postby yakattack » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:42 am

Well finally got this into the fermenter. Hoping it turns out well. Finally grain bill was 24 lbs.
Final volume was aproxx 14 gallons. Og after temp correct right before I pitched yeast was 1.052. Pretty satisfactory for a first go.

Next time will be a full fly sparge instead of a mix between fly and batch.
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Re: Blond ale all grain help

Postby bitter » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:27 pm

Sounds good how the fermentation going?
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