!!!Please Help with RUM!!!!

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Re: !!!Please Help with RUM!!!!

Postby rum is life » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:29 pm

Okay, I have a newbie question. I always read about people rack the wash to the still. What exactly does this mean?
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Re: !!!Please Help with RUM!!!!

Postby rubber duck » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:40 pm

It's a fancy word for siphioning. Don't ask me why.
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Re: !!!Please Help with RUM!!!!

Postby rum is life » Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:28 pm

Can anyone tell me about how long it will take me to run a 5 gallon wash through a still pot?
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Re: !!!Please Help with RUM!!!!

Postby rubber duck » Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:37 pm

There are way to many variables to tell. running slow, fast. heat sorce, altitude, condencer diameter and many more thing not listed.

Maby 2 hours start to finish, maby more.
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Re: !!!Please Help with RUM!!!!

Postby rum is life » Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:47 pm

I have a 2" condenser. I'm planning on a slow cook.

I will be moving to an area where the altitude is approx 5000 feet above sea level. How much time will this add or subtract from the process?(so I can plan ahead for that.)

Thanks for the quick replies, sure helps out.
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Re: !!!Please Help with RUM!!!!

Postby rubber duck » Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:52 am

Every still is diferant so for your first run figure on half a day to set it up, run clean, and just general messing around.
After you know your still and you have made a few runs you will probably have the bug and you will be at it all day.
So for me stilling day takes all day. I like to do muliple runs the clean up time is the same and i hate clean up.
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Re: !!!Please Help with RUM!!!!

Postby CletusDwight » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:57 am

rum is life wrote:Can anyone tell me about how long it will take me to run a 5 gallon wash through a still pot?


If you run a still flat out with the heat up full you can wring out all the alcohol real quick. Maybe an hour to warm up then an hour or so a gallon to still.

But if you do that, the thing is out of control. It's difficult to separate heads, heart and tails and they smear into each other.
You end up with either a small quantity of poor quality hearts or a whole bucket full of stuff that turns your stomach when you drink it. (At first you think it's OK - it's only after a couple of glasses you begin to think there might be something wrong)
You have to take it slow and careful, just trickling out the fractions and only opening up when you are sure of where you are.

A lot of the older stillers seem to take this for granted and don't mention it to us neophytes - It's taken me a few gallons of nail varnish remover drunk to work it out. And I still get it wrong.
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Re: !!!Please Help with RUM!!!!

Postby rad14701 » Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:52 am

As rubber duck mentioned, it'll take a run or three to get the feel of your equipment... And to do that, for a pot still, you're probably better off doing a stripping run and then a spirit run... By doing this you'll be able to play with the heat and take off rate without worrying about the quality of the end product as that will be refined in the spirit run...

However, none of this topic has actually been related to rum, specifically, but, rather, to pot stilling in general...

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Re: !!!Please Help with RUM!!!!

Postby rum is life » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:24 am

Well everyone I'll be able to start my Rum runs in about a week. Thanks to everyone who helped me come up with the final product of what I'm going to do. I'll keep everyone posted as to how things are going. I'm currently deployed and this was my gift to myself. Again, thanks for the help everyone and I'll be back to get more ideas and let you know how my results were so we can call learn together.
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Re: !!!Please Help with RUM!!!!

Postby Ayay » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:17 am

I only read pg 2 of this topic and this may need sayin...

Stripping run = hard and fast with no cuts. Simply gets you an average concentration of 40% all alcohols ready for another run.
Spirit run = slow and careful, to get you around 55%(pot) or 95% (reflux) average good alcohols in the hearts after makin the cuts.

Mostly pot stillers do a few strip runs and then a spirit run. Reflux stillers can get away with a spirit run first-off one-time. Not to say a good pot stiller can't do it in one run; nor to say a reflux stiller will bet better results by doing a few strippin runs and then doing a spirit run :)

That's the fun of it. YMMUMFknVary!
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Re: !!!Please Help with RUM!!!!

Postby bronzdragon » Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:03 am

I very well may be the only one here that likes it, but i've used the Rum Turbo yeast many times to good effect. Usually when I do runs, I will get one package of it, and ferment 5 gallons ... then transfer and immediately put another 5 gallons on top of the yeast. I do this 4 times in a row. The only thing different I do, is after the first batch I use a little yeast nutrient.

About every aspect of making rum has been covered 100 times on this board, so it's all out there. Molasses has good nutrients already, I just throw a bit in extra.

I typically do 4 batches in a row using stripping runs. I come up with 4 gal of low wines, throw in a gal of water and run that off slow on the fifth run. The only advice I can give you is try and keep your wash at about 10% and if you like a strong flavored rum, run into the tails. The more you run into the tails, the stronger the flavor will be. Then throw it on some charred oak or sugar maple and you're set.

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Re: !!!Please Help with RUM!!!!

Postby rum is life » Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:03 am

Hi everyone. I haven't been on here in awhile because it took longer than expected to get my equipment. I have a question that I'm hoping someone can answer me. I cleaned our my pot with vinegear and salt. I did a water run, but it was weird to me. I have my therm on top on the colum in the bung and when the wather vapors started coming out it only read 90 degrees C. Obviously i'm not a genius, but I was always told that water wouldn't evaporate until 100 degree's C. I know it's it takes time for the heat to build up and before the vapors come out, but is my therm in the wrong place? Does it need to be deeper in the colum? How should I adjust for when I do an actual wash run? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

On a side note. I made my white sugar wash to clean the still out and it fermented nice. I also made up my first 25L wash of the "good stuff" using the recepie from within this forum. There was massive foaming for the first night and now it has trickled down to a steady bubbling. I'll keep you posted on how everything goes..

Thanks all
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Re: !!!Please Help with RUM!!!!

Postby kiwistiller » Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:07 am

sounds like the thermo is not deep enough? A pic would help, or a description of how it is. 5000ft above sea level wouldn't drop the boiling points that much would it? surely not.
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Re: !!!Please Help with RUM!!!!

Postby rum is life » Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:23 am

i can't figure out how to put a pic on here, but there is about 3mm sticking out of the bottom of the bung.
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Re: !!!Please Help with RUM!!!!

Postby kiwistiller » Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:25 am

yup you want plenty more. there are instructions somewhere around the forum for adding pics. the jist of it is you use the upload attachments option under the save, preview, submit boxes.
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