Amalayse

[Bavis54]

Hi guys I jus have a dumb question- when doing a corn and wheat or corn and malt wash- can I use regular amalayse extract to convert to sugar? Or do I gotta use the two liquid enzymes?

[MichiganCornhusker]

You don't need any store bought enzymes.

Simply use malted grains in your recipe at 20% - 30% of the total grain bill.

7# ground up corn cooked in 4 gallons water, 3# ground up malted barley or malted wheat in at mash temps, and it will all convert just fine. Cool, pitch yeast, and you're on your way.

IF you choose to use additional enzymes its on you to know what they are, what they do, and exactly what type of protocol is required for them to perform correctly. Enzymes are not created equal.

[Bavis54]

Went yesterday to local brew supply shop, picked up beer hydrometer, gypsum, ph strips etc. was looking at some of the pleated barley and some of the wheats they carry, the owner told me that without amalayse I wouldn't get a good conversion. I don't know bc I'm jus now learning the science of all this, but jus to try it I picked some up, I was wanting to do like a 60-40 corn wheat or a 60-20-20 corn pleated malt and distillers malt. I jus wanna use as little extra sugar as possible I wanted to get a good conversion. That's y I ask-

[MichiganCornhusker]

He's just trying to sell you extra product. You won't need the amylase and you won't need sugar.

[Bavis54]

Ok thank u friend- I'm hoping the wheat and malt will help give me s smoother product . The peated malt was some the most amazing grain I've ever tasted, I love it, can't wait to see what it does

[MichiganCornhusker]

That peat will give it a nice Scotchy smokiness, different than other smoked grains.

[Still Life]

He's just trying to sell you extra product. You won't need the amylase and you won't need sugar.

Perfect example of what this site is about.

[aircarbonarc]

Distillers malt will give you all the enzymes you need

[ShineonCrazyDiamond]

Was it malted wheat? Malted wheat has even more conversion power than 2 row . If you were looking at unmalted wheat, you do need some kind of enzymes, but that amalayse is not the answer.

Go ahead and do 6lbs corn to 4 lbs any type of wheat malt (or a mix of all them ), and you'll have close to twice the conversion you need

[shadylane]

Just a thought
Malt will supply all the enzymes needed, to convert starch into fermentable sugar
Personally, I like to also use liquid enzymes for insurance
Here's a commonly used supplier for the enzymes.
http://www.enzymash.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

[Bavis54]

The grains I bought were 10 lbs of peated malt, 10 lbs of white malted wheat, 10 lbs of distillers malt, and 10 of maris otter malt- I haven't mashed in or used anything yet, still kinda thinkn on the recipe I wanna try. A friend of mine from Wilkes county gimme jar of some of the smoothest corn liquor I ever had- won't tell me for nothing wats in it exactly - all he'll say is that it's 60 corn and a mix of wheat and malt. That smoothness and easy drinking liquor is what I'm trying for. The peated malt I got is for a smokey corn recipe I wanna try later