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I wanted to make something special for Thanksgiving and was planning on fermenting this recipe. What are your thoughts?

10# instant mash potatos
1# Patagonia 2-Row pale malt
5 (14oz)cans of cranberry sauce
~20g brewers powered amylase enzymes.
10g Yeast Ex brewers yeast neutrients
1 pack Fleishmans bread yeast.

Make 10# instant mash potatoes using boiling water, Yeast Ex, and add extra water to make it a thin wash, add cranberry sauce. Let cool to 153F then add milled barley, and alpha amylase enzymes, let cool (153-145f) for at least one hour. Add water to 5 gallon mark with bread yeast and ferment around 65-75F house room temperature.

Pot still 4 gallons, one run, stop collecting at 100proof, then diluted with distilled water to 100proof.
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You'll probably need need gluco enzymes as well. With all of that cranberry in it, watch your PH, cranberry is quite acidic.
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BlackSailJ wrote:....What are your thoughts?
I don’t like cranberries...so I think your recipe sucks.
BlackSailJ wrote:...10# instant mash potatos...
Well, your opening gravity will be light. Believe it or not, there isn’t as much starch in potatoes as you think there is. So, you won’t get as much fermentable material as you’re hoping for. Pound for pound, potatoes are lessor producers than barley when it comes to extraction of fermentable sugars. And there won’t be much flavor from the potato mash either. You’d be better off bumping up the barley malt to 8-10 lb.

And I agree with RWH, cranberries are acidic. Be careful with the ferment.
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still_stirrin wrote:
BlackSailJ wrote:....What are your thoughts?
I don’t like cranberries...so I think your recipe sucks.
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But what do you really think? :evil:
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Graham Cracker wash distilled then put it together with an apple pie recipe is what always comes to mind for a quick and easy.
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BlackSailJ wrote:I wanted to make something special for Thanksgiving...
This Thanksgiving??
As mentioned, the potatoes will bring very little to the party.
To have something ready in November I'd put some cranberries, cloves, and nutmeg in a jar of vodka, shake it up and strain it.
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MichiganCornhusker wrote:This Thanksgiving??

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Yes for this Thanksgiving, straight out of the still ready. I know that potatoes have a parts per gallon (ppg) of around 7 because it is mostly water, but read that flaked potatoes has a ppg of around 35ppg. If this is the case then (35ppg X 10#= 350) / 5 gallons should give me an OG of 1.070 for just the potatoes if 100% starch conversation. I was planning on drinking this just after it comes out of the still and cut to 100proof.
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If it were me I would make a 100% corn mash... take narrow cuts and drink it while the nice corn taste are there and sweetness. You could make a cocktail using cranberry juice (could even spice it ) sorta like you do apple pie. Have some straight about 100 proof and the other about 30-60 proof with the cranberry juice and spices and some sugar.. You could even put a few cranberries in each jar.

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bitter wrote:If it were me I would make a 100% corn mash... take narrow cuts and drink it while the nice corn taste are there and sweetness. You could make a cocktail using cranberry juice (could even spice it ) sorta like you do apple pie. Have some straight about 100 proof and the other about 30 with the cranberry juice and spices and some suger.. You could even put a few cranberries in each jar.

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Here is an article that will better explain my thought process on the flaked potatoes and the ppg and starch vs sugar content.
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BlackSailJ wrote:Here is...my thought process on the flaked potatoes and the ppg and starch vs sugar content.
Gotcha'.

Good luck with it. I hope you have a happy thanksgiving.
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Good point about the dried vs. raw potatoes, the dried might get you up to a worthwhile OG.
They might also make a fairly thick soupy mash that may not settle out after fermenting.

I certainly don't mean to dissuade you against using potatoes, I've used white and sweet potatoes, as well as yams, and made interesting spirits with all three.

If you do go through with the recipe, post back and let us know how it goes, I'd be interested to hear how the flaked taters work out.
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I feel confident enough to give it a try and if it doesn't go the way I want I can always add a bag of sugar. As a probrewer I am trained to think that there is always a way to manipulate nature and get the results you are looking for, even if it takes a few tries.

I did brew a beer on a system that I knew all the specs, and used roasted sweet potatoes. I found that they had a PPG of only 8 which would make it about the same as potatoes. The big factor is that the instant mash potatoes are pre gelatinized and are flaked making the starch concentrated and easy to use.

To me the math adds up, and I am going to go for it. When it's done I will post the results whatever it be.

Thanks folks!
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