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Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 5:33 pm
by Kentucky shinner
I would use one packet, that will be plenty for 5 gallon. remember you can use it again and again, by just adding some new grain , sugar and water. When your temp reaches about 80f in just a few hours the yeast will start working again.
Hope this helps.
KS

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:26 am
by corncooker69
KS first off I hope you and yours had a Merry Christmas along with everybody else on here,secondly, I ran this thru my pot still after 2 cleaning runs of sugar wash to get all the nasties out from building her.
I kept the first 200 ml. for charcoal lighter and caught everything else in 200 ml. jars.
The 4th and 5th 200 ml jar was exceptional.
the rest I kept to rerun with the next batch, so ended up with 800 ml of really good smooth 45% abv after 2nd batch to age and reran everything else heads and tails in my 3rd run and came out with 4 quarts of 55% abv after blending and getting the flavor I wanted from the collection I still have some feints left to run again,but I have to say that the single run white is better in my opinion than the stronger 2nd spirit run.
Both have a really good taste but I just prefer the single run hearts.
I love this recipe,just wondering who else is running this thru a pot still and enjoys the single run of hearts. :D
I think I'm gonna set back and sip on a little today and watch it snow so far we have got about 4 to 5 inches since last night,first white Christmas for me here at home.at least weatherwise :wink:

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:31 am
by Kentucky shinner
I am glad to hear that you like it. After it ages a while it is even better.. I have some that is almost a year old now. I cant wait to try it.
KS

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:43 am
by carolina moonshiner
KS i have a 1 pound bag of the distillers yeast :esmile: you said 1 pack for 5 gallons . So would 1 tsp be to much ? Not sure how much is in a pack.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:44 am
by Kentucky shinner
oh hell ya.. I did not know you had a 5 pound bag shit I would use 2 tablespoons. It should crank up in 4 hours or less... Wow 5 pounds.. that will last a long time.. :ebiggrin: :ebiggrin:

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:11 pm
by cannonman
Kentucky Shinner and Tater
On your SWEET FEED recipe can you use four grain sweet feed containing alfalfa, oats, wheat and barley pluss the molasses or a three grain containing corn, oats, barley and molasses. What should I ask for at the feed store they always ask what its for. LOL :oops: I dont think I can tell them its for my Cooking. :D The feed store near me does not carry the Manna pro high grain sweet feed. Sure like to try this in a run i have some friends that like a fine whiskey. :lol:
Cannonman

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:21 pm
by ArkyJ
Corncooker!

I do sweetfeed and just single runs. Might try a little blending as you go along. Me, I keep it all, let it air out for about a week and usually blend just a little of the end tails with the hearts. Usually comes out at 57%. I don't drink it and I usually don't drink, but it makes for great sipping. Just a little nip every now and then.
The heads and rest of the tails go back into the next wash just before I fire up the pot still.
Might think of adding some blackstrap or fancy molasses or for that matter dark brown sugar to your next ferment. That and some tatter juice make a very smooth drink.
ArkyJ

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:43 pm
by Kentucky shinner
cannonman wrote:Kentucky Shinner and Tater
On your SWEET FEED recipe can you use four grain sweet feed containing alfalfa, oats, wheat and barley pluss the molasses or a three grain containing corn, oats, barley and molasses. What should I ask for at the feed store they always ask what its for. LOL :oops: I dont think I can tell them its for my Cooking. :D The feed store near me does not carry the Manna pro high grain sweet feed. Sure like to try this in a run i have some friends that like a fine whiskey. :lol:
Cannonman
just get the 3 grain. you dont want the alfalfa. Tell them its for feeding the deer.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:57 pm
by cannonman
rockchucker22 wrote:
Kentucky shinner wrote:
cannonman wrote:Kentucky Shinner and Tater
On your SWEET FEED recipe can you use four grain sweet feed containing alfalfa, oats, wheat and barley pluss the molasses or a three grain containing corn, oats, barley and molasses. What should I ask for at the feed store they always ask what its for. LOL :oops: I dont think I can tell them its for my Cooking. :D The feed store near me does not carry the Manna pro high grain sweet feed. Sure like to try this in a run i have some friends that like a fine whiskey. :lol:
Cannonman
just get the 3 grain. you dont want the alfalfa. Tell them its for feeding the deer.
In Ca it's illegal to feed wild animals stock food, they even ask if your feeding chicken scratch to chicken cause by law they can't sell it to you if it's for wild birds. I get the 4 way all grain sweetfeed for horses, they don't know if or if not you have horses. By the way I'm on my 5th generation of sweetfeed. I do 50% 4way and 50% corn makes a great burbon.
What kind of still do you run it through to get the Burbon. It sounds yummy. I need to build something.. LOL send me a picture or two of your unit.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:58 pm
by Kentucky shinner
The "Hillbilly Flute" of course :ebiggrin: :ebiggrin:

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:05 pm
by cannonman
Kentucky shinner wrote:The "Hillbilly Flute" of course :ebiggrin: :ebiggrin:
Where can I find out how to make one with all the pipe cut sizes and all the fittings.
I need to build something.. :D

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:12 pm
by olddog
cannonman wrote:Where can I find out how to make one with all the pipe cut sizes and all the fittings.
If you read this thread from the begining, you will find all the information and links you need. :D



OD

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:15 pm
by cannonman
olddog wrote:
cannonman wrote:Where can I find out how to make one with all the pipe cut sizes and all the fittings.
If you read this thread from the begining, you will find all the information and links you need. :D



OD
This sweet feed thread?? gott make sure im reading right.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:19 pm
by Kentucky shinner

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:20 pm
by olddog
cannonman wrote:This sweet feed thread?? gott make sure im reading right.
Sorry my mistake, Read the Flute talk thread from the beginning. :oops:


OD

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:22 pm
by cannonman
olddog wrote:
cannonman wrote:This sweet feed thread?? gott make sure im reading right.
Sorry my mistake, Read the Flute talk thread from the beginning. :oops:


OD
Thanks OD. Will do.
Cannonman

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:19 pm
by corncooker69
I am starting 2 more 5 gallon washes of this tonight.
3 inches of 10% sweetfeed in a 6 gallon bucket.
12 cups of sugar inverted in 2 gallons of water with 2 tbsp. lemon juice.
1 more gallon of boiling water to dissolve sweetfeed further and possibly convert more starches.
stir for 15 minutes and let sit for 90 minutes.
fill to 5 gallon mark and let cool to 90 degrees.
add 2 multivitamins for nutrients .
add 8 tbsp. yeast .
add 2 tbsp. brewers yeast for more nutrients.
stir gently and cap with lid and airlock.
I love this recipe and just wanted to try something a little different with it to see what the changes make in it.
At the moment i don't have a hydrometer to test sg but do have one to test proof and tralles after stillin.
Any thoughts on this let me know and I will see how she goes and keep y'all posted.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:12 pm
by Kentucky shinner
There is really no need for the extra vitamins, and nutrients. The sweet feed already has most of the nutrients needed. It wont hurt anything, it may even finish sooner. Let us know how it works for ya.
KS

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:11 pm
by corncooker69
Thanks KS, your opinion and knowledge is very much appreciated,I know this makes a very smooth recipe and is real easy to follow. Thank you for the advice and we'll see how she goes,she just started working good about 5 minutes ago.Looks like I'm going to have to add on to my ferment room if I keep rotating these washes out like I am.
This is about my favorite recipe so far,I am going to try the UJSSM next after 4 or 5 generations of the sweetfeed mix.This hobby really is so much fun to try new variations and keep plenty of notes and then use what you like the most.I can't wait to oak some of this and age it for a while.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:38 pm
by Kentucky shinner
it really smooths out after some time goes by. One thing I have found it is easy to over oak any of this stuff. watch it close when you put it on oak.
KS

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:14 pm
by corncooker69
Just tried a couple glasses of this on the rocks after only 4 days of oakin and I have to say it has a different taste allready than when white.
I have been distress aging 48 hours in the freezer then 48 hours in the dark at 75 degrees with a medium to light heavy burn of some 2 year old air dried white oak.just enough burn to pull out some of the vanilla notes but not heavy enough to be really astringent
I am going to try a light to medium burn on some of the next run and see how it tastes.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:27 pm
by Mr.Spooky
what size sticks are ya usin corncooker? i usually use the same ones over ( about 3/4"x3/4"x3ish) and over. i might hit them with a torch on the 3rd time. it takes alot more than 3 or 4 days to get that dark... also like KY said ,, "There is really no need for the extra vitamins, and nutrients. The sweet feed already has most of the nutrients needed. "
im a little lazy,, ,so on a sweetfeed batch,, ill just mix 7 lbs sugar,,, 7 lbs sweetfeed and a fistfull (2 tbl spoons) of yeast and let nature do the rest. as of now,,, iv never had any problems. BTW the fost full of yeast is only on the first time. after that,,, just add feed and sugar.
spooky

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:41 pm
by corncooker69
these are 1inch by 1 inch by 4 inch strips that I have burnt with a mapp gas torch on one side.
And this is only after 4 days of distress ageing .
I use 3 gallons of boiling water to try and get more of the starches converted from the feed.
I only added the brewers yeast for nutrients because I keep the heat on the sweetfeed for a good while, close to 2 hours before it has cooled down to 90 degrees after filling to the 5 gallon mark
And I only add the bakers yeast on the primary ferment,I have been using bakers yeast but I am mixing up 10 gallons tonight with distillers yeast in 2 more 5 gallon batches to see how they turn out.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:46 pm
by Mr.Spooky
that aint much more than what ive done... try using it a few times without the torch and see if you like the difference.
i recon each piece of wood is different,,, no matter how many times you bern it.
spooky

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:53 pm
by corncooker69
Will do Mr Spooky, I am allways trying different things to see what tastes best.
And Happy new Years to you and yours.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:52 pm
by carolina moonshiner
I have a question about different colored wash . I started 2 - 5 gallon mixing at the same time . And after 7 days i racked them off and here is what they look like now. The darker color one has a FG almost 0.999. The lighter one has a FG of 0.1000 I know for sure i used the same amout of yeast. But i think i may have used more sugar in the darker one . Could that have caused the darked color . I used the alcometer and the the darker one read 10 proof . The lighter one read around 0 . Can i use the alcometer and get a correct reading at the stage ?

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:11 pm
by Kentucky shinner
It looks like to me you got allot of the yeast bed in the second and it is still working... It should finish dry like the one on the right. Mine always looks like the one on the right. this is kind of puzzling.. Have you tasted both of them?.. I bet the one on the left is sweet and the one on the right is bitter.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:21 pm
by carolina moonshiner
KS your right the darker one taste bitter. I just went and checked and the lighter one is still working the air lock a little . KS how much longer do you think i will have to work ? I hope to run it this weekend . :ebiggrin: Wow i love the smell of the wash .

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:29 pm
by Kentucky shinner
I am thinking it must be close to being finished if the sg is 1.000, it wont clear until your yeast stop working, right now there keeping everything moving and it will stay cloudy.I would say if you keep the temp around 75-80f it should be ready and cleared by the weekend easy.

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:31 pm
by Kentucky shinner
I bet the one on the left has more sugar and that is why it is working longer... when its bitter its ready.. it does not have to clear to run it. I have run it both ways.. if you run it and it is not clear though, heat up very slow as not to burn any of the floaties.