sweetfeed whisky

Refined and tested recipes for all manner of distilled spirits.

Moderator: Site Moderator

BoomTown
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 1327
Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:41 am
Location: Virgina

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by BoomTown » Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:37 am

Sailman wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:15 pm
I was just wondering if the grain may have added some fermentable sugars over the course of the ferment.
More likely, your ambiant temp may be a bit low for your yeast’s comfort zone. Red Star and DADY are comfortablr at between 75 and 90 F, You used enough malted barlu to convert all the carbo if you added that at the right temp...
“…Let’s do this one more time....”

Sailman
Swill Maker
Posts: 269
Joined: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:02 am

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by Sailman » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:44 am

130 pages it's a lot to go through and this may be mentioned in the thread but I was just wondering when I rack this off into the still do I just go down to the grain bed? Or do I get everything in the fermenter? My gut feeling is just down to the grain bed but just I wanted to check

stillanoob
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 354
Joined: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:15 am

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by stillanoob » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:24 am

Either way. I went down to the grain bed except for the last run when I went for it all.

JC973
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 58
Joined: Sun May 10, 2020 3:13 pm
Location: Over the rainbow

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by JC973 » Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:37 pm

I’m really liking this recipe, admitted its the only shine recipe that I have finished and have aged / oaked a bit, but I’m on generation 4 and have had zero issues so far. I credit that to Kentucky Shiner’s T&T recipe and the information on this board.

Again thanks to all
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.

Sailman
Swill Maker
Posts: 269
Joined: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:02 am

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by Sailman » Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:56 pm

I just finished the stripping on gen 1 I went down to 10% by volume. It came out to be a little over 2 and 1/2 gallons. I think I'm going to do for strips and then a spirit. I do have one more question the grain bed it doesn't appear to have any Grey grain, spent grain so how much would I need to remove and replace? I was thinking half an inch to an inch, anyway I'm just waiting on the back set to cool

stillanoob
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 354
Joined: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:15 am

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by stillanoob » Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:43 pm

None of mine turned grey either. So i just added grain through 4 generations.

JC973
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 58
Joined: Sun May 10, 2020 3:13 pm
Location: Over the rainbow

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by JC973 » Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:08 pm

Same here, no change in color, but the grain did look a little “worn” after gen 3 so I scooped out an 1” or less and put the new in the hot back set with the sugar.

Man the chickens loved that spent grain though
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.

Sailman
Swill Maker
Posts: 269
Joined: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:02 am

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by Sailman » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:11 pm

After I started taking the top layer off I did notice a slight change in color but it wasn't as drastic as I thought it would be. The color of the mash on the 2nd gen didn't appear to be as dark as the first generation. Maybe it will darken up during fermentation.

Sailman
Swill Maker
Posts: 269
Joined: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:02 am

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by Sailman » Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:18 pm

Last Saturday I did a stripping run on the 1st Gen of sweet feed and I only took 200 mL of foreshots before I started collecting enlarger jars. It was about 11 gallons of mash at 1.064 and I collected over 2 and 1/2 gallons of low wines down to 10%. Should I have collected more foreshots? I did it this way because I knew I wouldn't be taking some more when I got enough run off to do a Spirit Run.

stillanoob
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 354
Joined: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:15 am

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by stillanoob » Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:57 pm

Naw, 200mL from 11g of wash is fine. You aren't going to use the first bit of the spirit run anyway.

I gotta say, mine is getting better after a few months on oak. I like it at cask strength over ice.

Sailman
Swill Maker
Posts: 269
Joined: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:02 am

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by Sailman » Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:08 pm

stillanoob wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:57 pm
Naw, 200mL from 11g of wash is fine. You aren't going to use the first bit of the spirit run anyway.

I gotta say, mine is getting better after a few months on oak. I like it at cask strength over ice.
this is all I can find as far as Oak chips I was thinking of doing a half-and-half mix. One is a dark heavy toast in the other is plain. I may even take some of the plain chips and put them in the oven and do a medium toast, that's what I wanted but couldn't find them. My plan is to do four stripping runs and one Spirit Run so that should give me enough Spirit to be able to try different quantities of Oak.
IMG_20200709_200017.jpg

JC973
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 58
Joined: Sun May 10, 2020 3:13 pm
Location: Over the rainbow

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by JC973 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:06 pm

stillanoob wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:57 pm
Naw, 200mL from 11g of wash is fine. You aren't going to use the first bit of the spirit run anyway.

I gotta say, mine is getting better after a few months on oak. I like it at cask strength over ice.
I know I’m new and just a noob, but KSSF has been my first long term project, I’m on Gen 5. I have left some white, and various amounts of oak cubes on others. I oak in glass at 65% and I peeled 750ml of the second generation back to 50% today after 2 months on oak and it’s dang good.

I was told the hardest thing to put in a bottle is patience but for me the hardest part is leaving it in the bottle...
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.

User avatar
Deplorable
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 601
Joined: Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:10 pm
Location: PNW

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by Deplorable » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:52 pm

Had to go in to the local TS for a fitting for my air compressor, so I walked in back where the feed bags are. There wasn't any of the all grain SF, just the stuff with pellets in it, but they did have sweet COB for $13.50/50# bag. I may have to try this out before starting single malts. Anyone done the math in the last 132 pages on how many gallons of mash a 50# bag yeilds?

(Edit) I see now in the OP its estimated that it's about 7.5# per 5 gallons, that'd be 33 gallons, if you didn't reuse a portion and just add new. So that being said I reckon it's likley close to 50 gallons or more of wash from a bag if you're making 5 to10 gallon of wash at a time?
Use all your senses, and its not that hard. You just have to pay attention.

stillanoob
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 354
Joined: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:15 am

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by stillanoob » Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:40 pm

Deplorable wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:52 pm
Had to go in to the local TS for a fitting for my air compressor, so I walked in back where the feed bags are. There wasn't any of the all grain SF, just the stuff with pellets in it, but they did have sweet COB for $13.50/50# bag.
Sweetfeed = Sweet COB (corn, oats, barley). Just depends on where you live.

User avatar
Deplorable
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 601
Joined: Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:10 pm
Location: PNW

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by Deplorable » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:25 pm

Thats what I thought I read in here in somewhere. Mind like a steel trap I tell ya ;-)
Use all your senses, and its not that hard. You just have to pay attention.

frenzy
Novice
Posts: 12
Joined: Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:02 am

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by frenzy » Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:05 am

Anyone else notice that the infamous purple bag of all grain feed from Tractor Supply no longer exists on their webpage? Instead this grey/brown bag appears...
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/produ ... feed-50-lb
Why is TS messing with us? It look over 100 pages of comments to get this right.

Have ya'll tried it? I've gotten used to my $15 bag that goes for 7 or so 5-gal runs...

User avatar
Dutch41
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 85
Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:12 pm
Location: CONUS

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by Dutch41 » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:04 am

frenzy and homedistiller members, I went to three Tractor Supply stores yesterday looking for the purple bag and found none. I came home and did a little research and found out that if you go to the TS website and enter the item# from the purple bag (I still have one), the new brown bag comes up. I did send TS a question about this however I have not received a reply as of yet. It appears to be the same at this point however I'm headed over to TS shortly to get a bag of this and see if they compare.

User avatar
Dutch41
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 85
Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:12 pm
Location: CONUS

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by Dutch41 » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:46 am

Ok gang, I just returned from Tractor Supply with the "NEW" All Grain Feed that comes in a brown bag now instead of the purple bag. EVERYTHING is identical on the PRODUCER'S PRIDE ALL GRAIN tag EXCEPT they no longer put Barley in it according to the ingredients label...Cost: $15.49 for a 50# Bag...

Beerswimmer
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 740
Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:33 pm
Location: In the garage

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by Beerswimmer » Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:39 am

mluvs2fish wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:46 am
Ok gang, I just returned from Tractor Supply with the "NEW" All Grain Feed that comes in a brown bag now instead of the purple bag. EVERYTHING is identical on the PRODUCER'S PRIDE ALL GRAIN tag EXCEPT they no longer put Barley in it according to the ingredients label...Cost: $15.49 for a 50# Bag...
So just corn, oats, and molasses?
Ut Alii Vivant!!!!

User avatar
Dutch41
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 85
Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:12 pm
Location: CONUS

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by Dutch41 » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:25 pm

Beerswimmer wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:39 am
mluvs2fish wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:46 am
Ok gang, I just returned from Tractor Supply with the "NEW" All Grain Feed that comes in a brown bag now instead of the purple bag. EVERYTHING is identical on the PRODUCER'S PRIDE ALL GRAIN tag EXCEPT they no longer put Barley in it according to the ingredients label...Cost: $15.49 for a 50# Bag...
So just corn, oats, and molasses?
YES - INGREDIENTS: Cracked Corn, Whole Oats, Cane Molasses, just missing the barley from the purple bag... Item# 0045018

User avatar
Deplorable
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 601
Joined: Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:10 pm
Location: PNW

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by Deplorable » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:13 pm

Get the sweet COB in the yellow bag.
Use all your senses, and its not that hard. You just have to pay attention.

frenzy
Novice
Posts: 12
Joined: Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:02 am

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by frenzy » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:03 pm

Thanks for reporting back on this!
mluvs2fish wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:46 am
Ok gang, I just returned from Tractor Supply with the "NEW" All Grain Feed that comes in a brown bag now instead of the purple bag. EVERYTHING is identical on the PRODUCER'S PRIDE ALL GRAIN tag EXCEPT they no longer put Barley in it according to the ingredients label...Cost: $15.49 for a 50# Bag...

User avatar
Dutch41
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 85
Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:12 pm
Location: CONUS

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by Dutch41 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:41 am

Deplorable wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:13 pm
Get the sweet COB in the yellow bag.
Deplorable, I would love to get the COB but I can't find it where I'm at. I'll check on it if I travel out of state and get it then. Thanks for the recommendation.

User avatar
Deplorable
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 601
Joined: Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:10 pm
Location: PNW

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by Deplorable » Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:56 am

Is it available to deliver to your store?
Use all your senses, and its not that hard. You just have to pay attention.

stillanoob
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 354
Joined: Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:15 am

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by stillanoob » Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:23 am

You can also look for the Grainland Select brand, that is what I used.

User avatar
Dutch41
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 85
Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:12 pm
Location: CONUS

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by Dutch41 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:50 am

mluvs2fish wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:41 am
Deplorable wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:13 pm
Get the sweet COB in the yellow bag.
Deplorable, I would love to get the COB but I can't find it where I'm at. I'll check on it if I travel out of state and get it then. Thanks for the recommendation.
Deplorable, have you had any experience with the cracked corn at TS? Just curious...

User avatar
Deplorable
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 601
Joined: Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:10 pm
Location: PNW

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by Deplorable » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:13 am

mluvs2fish wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:50 am
mluvs2fish wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:41 am
Deplorable wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:13 pm
Get the sweet COB in the yellow bag.
Deplorable, I would love to get the COB but I can't find it where I'm at. I'll check on it if I travel out of state and get it then. Thanks for the recommendation.
Deplorable, have you had any experience with the cracked corn at TS? Just curious...
I have not used their cracked corn, but there are others here that have. Truth be told, I haven't even opened the bag of COB I bought yet since I've got a Gerber wash in the fermenter to clean the still.
Use all your senses, and its not that hard. You just have to pay attention.

BoomTown
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 1327
Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:41 am
Location: Virgina

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by BoomTown » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:53 pm

mluvs2fish wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:50 am
mluvs2fish wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:41 am
Deplorable wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:13 pm
Get the sweet COB in the yellow bag.
Deplorable, I would love to get the COB but I can't find it where I'm at. I'll check on it if I travel out of state and get it then. Thanks for the recommendation.
Deplorable, have you had any experience with the cracked corn at TS? Just curious...
I have. Used it for years. Needs cooking, hold at 170+ for 20-30 minutes, probably have to add enzyme or malted barley in small amount to change the viscosity, and stir it 3 or 6 times. Let the temp drop, and your malted grains at 155-160, stir, and cover till temp drops to 100. Test with iodine, and cast yeast when clear. Love that TS chicken grind cracked corn!
“…Let’s do this one more time....”

User avatar
Deplorable
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 601
Joined: Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:10 pm
Location: PNW

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by Deplorable » Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:08 am

Im surprised that nobody yet has run the SF through the mill, and pitched Angel Yeast to see if the magic chinese yease with enzymes will provide a viable AG wash.
Use all your senses, and its not that hard. You just have to pay attention.

Beerswimmer
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 740
Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:33 pm
Location: In the garage

Re: sweetfeed whisky

Post by Beerswimmer » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:59 pm

Angel yeast will do it for sure :thumbup:
Ut Alii Vivant!!!!

Post Reply