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Re: Cornflakes whiskey

Post by Odin » Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:25 pm

Try Fleischmann's

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Re: Cornflakes whiskey

Post by metalmarc » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:59 am

I'm currently experimenting with popcorn....corn.
That's the best i could find in the netherlands.
Because i'd love to make a corn whisky without the sugar.

Got a 10KG (22 pounds) bag of it online, tried malting it, about 80% germinated, dried it and did a little test mash yesterday.
Got 1 gallon of water and 1,5KG (3.3 pounds) of cracked malted corn. mashed it for 1,5 hours between 146-156F (64-69 C).
But only got a meagre SG of 1.030.

Will try it again when the enzymes get here to see if i can get it higher, if not i guess Odin's cornflakes whisky it is.

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Re: Cornflakes whiskey

Post by OldShiner » Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:01 pm

Hi all.
I'm new on this forum but have made a few of Odins CFW and i'm quite impressed. Thanks Odin.
I have made all grain bourbon for many years and was Googling for an extract method when I first discovered this CFW thread.
So while I do like the CFW it is not quite close enough to Bourbon how my tastes and I have been experimenting with other ways to make a simple yet delicious Bourbon. I must say that I also find the Cornflakes a bit troublesome.

So now My Question, and yes I have read every post in this thread.
Has anyone tried using caned corn, caned sweet corn or canned creamed corn? Or even frozen corn that has been thawed and blended with some water?
I recon this would be even easier than cornflakes and yield a little extra wash.

I just thought i would ask first as it could save me wasting my time if it doesn't work.

Also for a more authentic bourbon taste I have adapted this CFW to include Rye bread as has been mentioned here and in Odin's Rye recipe and I also add 1kg of Light Dry Malt (25L Mash)for a Barley addition. Light Dry Malt is used in Extract brewing as a Base malt alternative.
You may want to give it a try if you are a fan of bourbon. I find it better than most expensive bourbons.

Shine on guys an gals.

Thanks once again to Odin
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Re: Cornflakes whiskey

Post by Saltbush Bill » Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:21 pm

I do know that some people have successfully added creamed corn to UJSM ferments before distilling....don't know about Cornflake Whisky though.

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Re: Cornflakes whiskey

Post by OldShiner » Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:26 pm

metalmarc wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:59 am
I'm currently experimenting with popcorn....corn.
That's the best i could find in the netherlands.
Because i'd love to make a corn whisky without the sugar.

Got a 10KG (22 pounds) bag of it online, tried malting it, about 80% germinated, dried it and did a little test mash yesterday.
Got 1 gallon of water and 1,5KG (3.3 pounds) of cracked malted corn. mashed it for 1,5 hours between 146-156F (64-69 C).
But only got a meagre SG of 1.030.

Will try it again when the enzymes get here to see if i can get it higher, if not i guess Odin's cornflakes whisky it is.
Enzymes will certainly make a big difference - use both Alpha and Beta during the mash or Glucoamylase add to the fermenter (won't raise your gravity but will break the glucose to fermentable sugars while fermenting.

Corn contains a heap of starch which needs to be converted to fermentables.

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Re: Cornflakes whiskey

Post by Black Hearts » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:39 pm

TDick wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:42 am
Odin wrote:
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pH crash is pretty dependent on how calcium rich your water is. pH at around 4 is good for the ferment. Higher hampers flavor development. Lower may stall your ferment. Well, pH 3.5 is still okay, but start out at pH 4.0 and then play around a bit to find your flavor profile. Depending on your water, you may need to use some bicarb. Adding it (or not) is not part of the recipe, because it may be different for different distillers/locations.

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It's been a LOOOONG time since I tried my last mash, so I'm considering myself a noob again.
Odin's Cornflakes seems like a great place to start and yes I read the whole damned thread.
I did note that Odin repeatedly stresses water ph. I still had a bottle of test strips & looks like my city water is around 6.
I was going to use bottled spring water but decided that for this first run, I can't start the mash for about a week so I plan on filling some buckets and let them air for that long to dechlorinate.
Wondering if there's anything else to consider while I let them air.
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Re: Cornflakes whiskey

Post by HomerD » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:14 pm

You can always use vitamin C to get rid of chlorine.1/4 teaspoon works for 30 gallons @ 4 ppm.

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Re: Cornflakes whiskey

Post by Black Hearts » Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:13 am

Odin wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:46 am
If you can distill very slowly on gas or with a water jacketed boiler, there is no need to take the liquid of the grain. Just distill all.

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I have a water jacketed still, but my question is wont distilling everything give a bad taste due to all the yeast in the wash? What's your opinion?

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Re: Cornflakes whiskey

Post by Tummydoc » Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:26 am

I distill on grain and have never detected yeast flavor. Commercial folks do the same.

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Re: Cornflakes whiskey

Post by Odin » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:58 am

If you have off-flavors from the yeast, pitch less yeast.

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Re: Cornflakes whiskey

Post by Black Hearts » Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:00 pm

Odin,

Sticking to your 1gr per litre recipe. With 25% of that boiled as nutrient. Making a 200 litre batch soon.

Thanks again,

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Re: Cornflakes whiskey

Post by Odin » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:04 pm

Sounds like a great plan!

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Re: Cornflakes whiskey

Post by luchete80 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:43 am

Hey! I've found excellent results with this recipe. Actually i have 1 qt with american oak stick @55% from 3 months ago and i think 2 or 3 more months from now will be ready. I've been doing this infography togheter with anothers which posted in instagram, in some way to say thanks to this amazing site in which I am always around.
I also included a yeast bomb which in my case allows to start ferment almost 1 hour after i pitch.
I think also i've increased sugar content.. sorry hehe.

Hope you like this!
Ps: Thanks Odin and everyone here for all this info.

I'll keep posting.
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