Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

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Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Post by NZChris » Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:08 am

Royco wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:02 am
Yes Chris I read a lot and some posters recommend just running it anyway.
Some posters are wrong. That is poor advice.

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Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Post by HDTV » Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:04 am

Started this wash today, 2.5 hours in it's bubbling nicely. Not ferociously, just a nice steady purr.

I used a champagne yeast instead of baker's yeast, because I can't easily keep my temperature above 30 this time of year.

I might try baker's yeast next time though. I see that some say 20-30C, and I can hit the bottom of that if the weather stays nice, or come in just under that if it gets cold again. I've done a fair bit of fermenting at or just below recommended temps, and the slow ferments have only helped the flavors. Oh, and I don't really mind waiting.

What do you think? Will baker's yeast ferment, slowly, at ~18C? I start around 30C.

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Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Post by CoogeeBoy » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:01 pm

HDTV wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:04 am

What do you think? Will baker's yeast ferment, slowly, at ~18C? I start around 30C.
Too slowly, I was going around 22C and it took way too long.

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Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Post by HDTV » Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:04 pm

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Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:01 pm
Too slowly, I was going around 22C and it took way too long.
Makes sense. My Turbo washes take 2 weeks, I guess I don't really wanna know how long it will take with bakers yeast. I guess it's champagne yeast until the weather warms up.

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Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Post by Squirrel_Ess_Gen » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:11 am

I'm in day 16 of my 1st two attempts at Birdeatchers. Checked my gravity a few mins ago and thankfully it will be done tommrow. It's fairly close to 1.000. SG was 1.090 ( I know a bit high)

I used 2 separate 5g buckets: one with Fleishmans the other with Red Star.

Fleishemans seems to be further ahead and cleaner looking.

Checked my temp and I'm at 76F. So I will probably be going out today to buy a light or a small heater.

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Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Post by Tasgrasshopper » Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:30 am

Started my first birdwatchers today ended up 26 Litres SG at 1.073, ferment heater set at 25 C, Rain water and bakers yeast, used the recipe from the first post and it's rolling along at a steady pace 5 hours in.

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Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Post by Tasgrasshopper » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:11 pm

Day 4 SG at 1.010 PH at 4.5 after addition of 2 teaspoons of calcium carbonate on day 2, I would have used oyster shells as i live by the coast but i have a 25kg bag of calcium carbonate to use up.

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Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Post by Squirrel_Ess_Gen » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:41 pm

Ran my 1st Birdwatchers a few days ago with my new controller from Stilldragon.

I initially came here and pulled the trigger because of George, so naturally I had a PID. I've read all the the threads and took heed to what everyone says.

Anywho.

Man...the speed at which my still was pumping out product was great ( Stripping run)

I dont know exactly how long it took my ferment to finish because it was in an air conditioned environment, my guess is 2.5 werks. Since then I have found a better place.

Got rid of 300ml forshots and starting practicing on my cuts. I know this is a strip but I touched/smelled/tasted alot.

What I'm sure is the hearts had a blackberry/blueberry character and an abv of 140. From a 5 gallon ferment at 1.090 I ended up keeping a little over a half gallon. I know i left alot of alcohol still in there . I have 2 more finished ferments to strip so I can do s spirit run.

The taste of the heats were Very Very Very neutral.

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Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Post by Squirrel_Ess_Gen » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:52 am

Did my 2nd strip run. Looks like I have about about 1.5gallons of low wines. Getting to impatient to wait for another stripping run on a new bsch ( I know, patient mans game)

I plan on refluxing it.

My question is should I let the low wines air out for a few days before spirit3eun? Or eff it and let her RIP?

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Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Post by Saltbush Bill » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:58 am

Let it rip. :thumbup:
No benifit in airing low wines that im aware of.

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Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Post by Squirrel_Ess_Gen » Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:29 am

Redluxed to 190 and proofed down to 80.

It taste like vodka, albeit sweet, it smells like vodka but I have to drink alot! To get s buzz. Wiered.

Let the lady folk taste it to make a lemon drop and got good reviews but she said she also didnt feel anything.

Have 3 literes making SPD.

Another batch I have 1.5 gallons of low wines waiting on some ferments to finish. I may distill this one 4x....I had some tails in my 1st batch.

But for less than 20.00 in materials not bad. I need to start looking for a method to heat my fermenters...

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Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Post by zed255 » Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:03 pm

Squirrel_Ess_Gen wrote:
Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:29 am

It taste like vodka, albeit sweet, it smells like vodka but I have to drink alot! To get s buzz. Wiered.

Let the lady folk taste it to make a lemon drop and got good reviews but she said she also didnt feel anything.
I have found the effects of homemade hooch with good cuts / processes differ from commercial product a fair bit. You feel less buzz but I assure you you are plenty impaired. I learned the hard way how quick my likker would be down the road with my dignity without my knowledge or consent.
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Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Post by Alkyholik » Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:33 am

I just put a trial wash into a 25ltr bucket to try.its my 1st time. Liquid was about 110mm from the lid.after an hour I have already got foam upto about half that distance. I have a bubbler so have put that on the lid also and closed it,does this matter? Op says to just leave lid on top loosely.
Will this foam over? If it gets too high is it ok to scoop some of the foam off the top?
PS: it's too late,I had to scoop some of it off the top. It was touching the lid

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Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Post by NZChris » Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:16 pm

Don't put a bubbler on a wash with a chance of puking as it can cause the puke to hit the ceiling.

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Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Post by Saltbush Bill » Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:55 pm

It shouldnt matter to much, ive always used fermeters with lids and airlocks when making Birdwatchers... never had a problem.
Might be an idea to lower the level of the liquid in the fermenter some though.

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Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Post by Alkyholik » Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:37 pm

It's all good now guys. Just checked this morning and it's still bubbling away nicely. One thing,should it be gently stirred each day just now?

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Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Post by Saltbush Bill » Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:04 am

No need at all to stir.....keep it warm and leave it be till it doesn't taste sweet any more.
Poke a finger in and have a taste now so that you have something to compare to in coming days.

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Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Post by Alkyholik » Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:35 am

Thanks bill.appreciate it

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Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Post by LaissezPasser » Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:12 pm

Does anyone have any insight as to why my SG is going up? I’m on day 2 of a birdwatcher’s ferment using EC-1118; my starting SG was 1.08, and today it’s 1.09. The wash was the same temperature each day at the time of measurement, and has been kept stable with an aquarium heater. I took a picture of the hydrometer each time, so I know so I know it’s not a recording error.

The only hypothesis I have — unsupported by any evidence — is that the bubbles are nucleating on the hydrometer, generating lift. I don’t actually see this happening in the graduated cylinder, though.

The same thing happened to me several months ago with a previous birdwatcher’s wash, also using EC-1118, where the SG increased for several days despite nothing being added and a consistent temperature.

Anyone have insights on why my SG is increasing?

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Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Post by 2ndstill » Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:41 am

Hi All.
Just started my first batch of BWs five days ago.
Hoping to get away from the cost and taste of the turbos.
Here is my material list..... 26L batch

6kg white sugar
310 ml tomato paste
1 large pinch Epsom salt
Liquid from 1 lemon
1/2cup bakers yeast.

SG . 1.082
Pitched yeast at 35c
Maintaining between 32c to 35c
Constant bubbling for last 4days every 1 to 3 seconds

I'm excited. This is my first non turbo sugar wash

1 question.
Roughly how long should my ferment last ?

Thanks.

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Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Post by StillerBoy » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:23 pm

2ndstill wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:41 am
6kg white sugar
310 ml tomato paste
1 large pinch Epsom salt
Liquid from 1 lemon
1/2cup bakers yeast.

Maintaining between 32c to 35c
Constant bubbling for last 4days every 1 to 3 seconds

1 question.
Roughly how long should my ferment last ?
You will get better result using 4.5 - 5 K sugar.. temp on the high side somewhat, best maintain at 30 - 32c for bread yeast..
At 6K of sugar, expect at least 7 - 8 days if not more due to high sugar level being so high..
Check Ph of water, and lemon juice requires very little since tomato paste is acidic on it own already..

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