SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe

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Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe

Post by 2ndstill » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:17 am

Ok another question. My batch stopped bubbling after 12 days. I decided to check ABV with hydrometer , and its showing way below 0%.. But it tastes sour.
What could be wrong ??

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Post by tubbsy » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:21 am

2ndstill wrote:Ok another question. My batch stopped bubbling after 12 days. I decided to check ABV with hydrometer , and its showing way below 0%.. But it tastes sour.
What could be wrong ??
Hydrometer is useless on anything but clear liquids. The solids and unfermentables mess up the buoyancy of the hydrometer and will give a false reading. You need to measure the gravity and the start and again at the end to calculate the ABV.

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Post by 2ndstill » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:11 am

Ok. I did measure gravity at the start so I will do it again this afternoon and calculate. Thanks for the info.

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Post by acfixer69 » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:32 am

Sorry, it sounds like you are using a proof and triale hydrometer. Wrong tool for the job. You need to measure the specific gravity not ABV of the wash.

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Post by Saltbush Bill » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:05 am

If its sour its done......run it.

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Post by Cabron99 » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:22 am

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Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe

Post by 2ndstill » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:49 am

Running it today. I'm excited. But I have to source some oak for aging.

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Post by Yummyrum » Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:11 pm

Are you going to run it on 4 plates like Salty or are you pot stilling it ?

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Post by 2ndstill » Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:15 pm

I'm using a converted beer keg

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Post by Saltbush Bill » Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:30 pm

You can't distill anything with a beer keg......I think yummy would like to know what's on top of the boiler.

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Post by 2ndstill » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:25 am

It has a 36" × 2" length of copper pipe on top. Then a 2" to 1/2", 90° reducer to a 40" Liebig

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Post by 2ndstill » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:26 am

I'm waiting on some copper mesh packing.

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Post by 2ndstill » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:27 am

It seemed to work well. I'm picking up some white oak today

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Post by MartinCash » Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:33 pm

Hey 2ndstill, you don't need copper packing inside a pot still column, unless your setup is all stainless, in which case throwing a couple of cheap copper scrubbies in the boiler might well equally well.

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Post by 2ndstill » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:31 pm

I thought if you put copper mesh in the column that it would act like multiple distillations at once ??

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Post by NZChris » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:30 pm

2ndstill wrote:
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I thought if you put copper mesh in the column that it would act like multiple distillations at once ??
Sounds like you've been watching too much Youtube.

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Post by MartinCash » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:57 pm

For a flavourful spirit like rum or whiskey, using a pot still, adding packing to your column will up the proof somewhat, at the expense of stripping out flavour, if you get some pasive reflux. You won't have much control over how much reflux you get, it will depend on the outside temperature and the amount of power you apply to your boiler.

If you insulate your column then you will have no passive reflux and the packing only really slows down your speed of production.

If you're looking at multiple distillations, you might consider the traditional approaches of strip-and-spirit run or running with a thumper. You could also go down the route of a plated still, but that's a whole different ball game. IMO it seems a shame to spend the effort to make an all-molasses recipe and then use a method that strips out flavour, but if you like the result, go for it. In general:

Pot still = no packing
Reflux still = packing (or plates)

I should add that I have a couple of small bits of stainless steel scrubber at the top and the mouth of my liebig to aid with huffing, and I have used a scrubbie in my main column to hold botanicals above it. But I get more benefit from chucking them in my boiler, where they even out the boiling rate and give me less surging.

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Post by Saltbush Bill » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:27 am

Relying on.passive reflux to try to increase abv or as a means of getting more distilation phases is a complete waste of times.

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Post by chickenfeed » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:09 pm

MtRainier wrote:
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Saltbush Bill wrote:I agree with yummy about the dunder.....fresh added before fermentation is as good as aged imo.
Got me beat why you would only use two plates....you'll get plenty of flavour with four and better separation of fractions.
Each to thier own I guess.
Thanks. I've run rum washes in the past and felt like I didn't have a lot of flavor with 4 so I was going to try this one with less. I'll give this a try with 4 to see what happens. It's fizzing like soda this morning.
I have been running 2 4" plates for some time now. 4 3" plates before that and pot still and packed column. I get more flavor with the two and have great compression of heads and tails. Just remember to balance out the column 1st and and let it equalize for about an hour before I then turn off the head and start drawing off the heads.

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Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe

Post by 2ndstill » Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:31 am

Ok thanks for all the info..and yes I watched some youtube..lol. I'm ok with the taste so I wont worry about any packing. Going to char my oak this weekend and add it.

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Post by Copperhead road » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:14 pm

Like any good Rum time on oak is everything, I’ve tried this rum “young” and it was good. Also tried it after two years on oak and it was exceptional and a completely different animal. I like this rum because it’s subtle but still rummy.

In Australia as a teenager I grew up on Bundaberg Rum, probably why I don’t like that stuff now. :oops:

I found SBB all molasses rum is a similar to Australian Inner circle rum in taste. Mind you by no means am I a rum connoisseur. Everyone’s taste buds are different I guess...

Sometime ago I had a barrel made With the intention to fill it pacifically with SBB all molasses Rum. Need to get my shit together because I still haven’t started. :lolno:
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Post by rolling » Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:27 pm

I started making SBB Rum last jan., and have a good amount put up on both charred and uncharted oak. Just took Salt Bush Bill's advice and am trying really hard to keep my mitts off of it. It helped that we moved, I lost my still space, and have it all in storage in my son's garage attic. I've got to admit I've been drinking more beer and store bought to help me give it time. Just got to keep waiting...

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Post by 30xs » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:15 pm

I put a ferment down on 9/20. Airlock activity seemed normal up until around 9/26. I also have a BW going in the insulated area that I’ve been keeping the heat on for. BW is at .992, so almost finished and has a clean alcohol smell. The SBB on the other hand has me questioning my molasses source. Here’s the full background to help figure out if it was protocol, or moll issues:

Heated 10 gallon to a boil and dumped ~15 gallon of molasses into the barrel. Poured boiling water over molasses and stirred. Filled the fermenter to about half, or slightly more before adding vitamins and Epsom salts, then finished topping off the fermenter with the hose. The hose set to jet gave me a foamy surface as it was trying to aerate the fermenter. Once topped the temp was 85 degrees so I pitched about a cup of yeast. Capped it up and had bubbles within an hour. I started the BW immediately afterwards using the same method and water. I didn’t check SG, because the thread said molasses don’t work that way. Tested today through a foam that seems questionable and it read about 1.050? The surface of the was is a yellowish tan with little pools that resemble melted butter. Is this normal for a feed stock molasses wash?
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Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe

Post by NZChris » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:11 pm

You should always take the OG, as the current SG isn't as useful if you don't know the OG.

Does it taste finished?

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Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe

Post by MartinCash » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:47 pm

Molasses is full of unfermentable sugars and FG will be very high. If it tastes dry and there's no activity, it's done. I've never seen a molasses wash so pale. Are you sure you had decent mixing?

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Post by Yummyrum » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:57 pm

Yup , a high FG in the order of 1.050-1.065 is pretty typical for this all Molasses Rum . The more often you make it, the higher it will go .

Regarding the yellow crap . That doesn’t look right .
I once got Molasses from the local rural store that had this oily shit on top of it . When I queried them about it , the just laughed and said it was probably transmission fluid from the Used 44gal drums they had the Molasses truck fill up . :?

They said it won’t worry the horses :lol:

I told them I didn’t want it . They let me have it for free . I ended up tipping it out .

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Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe

Post by Saltbush Bill » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:24 pm

Thats a strange looking wash, I have no idea what that oily looking stuff is.....never had that happen on any of my molasses ferments? Did the container the molasses came in have a list of contents on the side?

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Post by Saltbush Bill » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:27 pm

rolling wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:27 pm
Just got to keep waiting...
Reckon you have waited long enough, Id be sampling by now.
Im not sure charred oak is that good in Rum, but thats your choice,,,,,everyone has different tastes.

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Post by tubbsy » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:29 pm

I think Yummy's on the money. I remember years ago the old man got some molasses to give to the sheep during a drought and it had a feint motor oil smell. I was only 15, so wasn't making rum and can't compare, sorry.

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Re: SBB's All Molasses Rum Recipe

Post by SaltyStaves » Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:18 am

30xs wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:15 pm
before adding vitamins
You'll need to tell us what you used and how much of it. Good chance that explains the colour and the oil slick.

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