uncle jesse's simple sour mash method

[bentstick]

Sugar to water you state should be at least 11.5 pot. Alcohol, not taking the 25lbs of corn, to me it should be higher, how big is your fermentor?

[likkerfirst]

I have a 25 gallon fermentor, I just took the recipe for 5 gallons and multiplied it by three for 15 gallons, wich would come to 21lbs of corn, so I threw in the extra 4 pounds. I thought I should be at 10-12% but i used the hydrometer and thats what it told me lol.

[bentstick]

Ok next ? Is this the first ferment of UJ? And did ya save about 3-5 gals of what was left in boiler for your next batch? ( to start the sour process) Like i said I think cuts to begin with, and my UJ I try to keep around 8-9 abv.As far as temp goes my basement does not get any warmer than 50f when it is cold and things have not run any different for me.( but then I dont run a thump)maybe I cant help because I dont run a thumper?

[likkerfirst]

Yes I did, the run I did yestarday was the second run, both runs were mean though. I use an aquarium heater in my fermenter to keep it around 75-80 degrees. I thought maybe there was something wrong with the first was so I dumped it all out tonight and started over with the same ingredients and got 8% agian.

[Titus-a-fishus]

Still working on how to get taste out of this recipe.

Last week put 40 ltrs of filtered water aside and left it until Saturday.
Started a ferment and for the first time have a cap/crust on the top of it.
So it is different to all the previous ferments I've done over the past.... 12months.

Hope it makes the difference..... not holding my breathe though
We'll see in a few days time.

TAF

[HellsWintr]

yeah titus. I get NO corn taste at all. i'm gunna dump some cooked corn in there just to see if that helps. I've even ran this thing to 19 generations. not sure what's going on.

[Odin]

I think the solution is in the sorta corn you use. I live in Europe and find that most corn is for animals. It has close to no taste. I think in America they often use sweet or indian maize/corn. I added a bit of cooked sweet corn and got over more taste.

Odin.

[Titus-a-fishus]

yeah titus. I get NO corn taste at all. i'm gunna dump some cooked corn in there just to see if that helps. I've even ran this thing to 19 generations. not sure what's going on.

Have been down the sweet corn, different corn, baked/roasted sweet corn road and it lead me to nowhere...

I think the solution is in the sorta corn you use. I live in Europe and find that most corn is for animals. It has close to no taste. I think in America they often use sweet or indian maize/corn. I added a bit of cooked sweet corn and got over more taste.

Odin.

Glad to see it worked for you Odin...
But as you can see in previous posts on this thread it made no difference to my wash.
There is something fundametally different in the ingredients I am using that makes for a neutral with little to no corn flavour.
The first and only time I got any flavour it was with feed corn.

I've had sweet corn that was roasted and you could smell the flavours there.
It just didn't transfer to the wash.

So far I''ve concentrated on the corn as it seemed the most likely problem,
Then it was the pH
Now I am looking at the water.
As said I have never had a cap on my ferments before and this one has it......
Can only keep plugging away at the problem until I crack the code.

To be fair to some of the posters that felt I would get the corn flavour after oaking...
Waaaaaaaay in the background of some of my oaked UJ there is a tiny bit of corn flavour, but not enough to scream success.

I had success once
Will have it again.

Soon as I crack it you blokes will hear about here on this thread. Loud and proud

Just glad to hear there are others out there with the same problem... I was beginning to feel like it was just me or that my posts would be taken as a bad joke.

TAF.

[blind drunk]

T-a-f - Maybe you're an all grain candidate?

[Titus-a-fishus]

BD
I am seriously looking at it.
Mate of mine has brought down 12kg of whole corn
Just not sure on how to go about malting it.
Still reading and not yet game to take the leap.
Chickens.it scared of the untried

Will give it a go in a week ... or two... or

If the water is an issue it would be a shame to do the same to that much corn.
So will run this current ferment and see what the results are
Thanks for the post.

TAF

[blind drunk]

Why don't you try NcHooch' over in the tried and true? Everybody who tries it, likes it. It's on my bucket list, but with corn flour.

[likkerfirst]

Disregaurd the post about the likker being mean, I let it air for 36hrs and made my cuts....... This stuff is good!! Ive got it at about 90 proof and its pretty smooth with just a little bite. Do you think if I insulate I would get it smoother?? I gave some to my buddy, he liked it and he's a cocktail drinker. He mixed up a whiskey coke with it and loved it.