how much distillate to throw away

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how much distillate to throw away

Postby ilovethisstuff » Tue May 03, 2011 1:01 pm

i know this is a very novice question but i am just starting and want to make sure im doing this right.

i have a one gallon mix thats just sugar and nutrients. the abv should be about 10%

when i distill this how much should i throw away before i start collecting.
also how much sould i collect before i stop collecting

thanks for any advise
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Re: how much distillate to throw away

Postby blind drunk » Tue May 03, 2011 1:21 pm

On a pot still, I throw away about 1 cup / 5 gallon wash.

I like to run all the way to the bitter end. I like to know what's at the bottom and sometimes it's a nice surprise. But on one gallon, it's gonna be difficult to get the hang of things and make cuts. Go by taste and smell. But what the hell, you'll learn something. Some say touch, but I haven't figured that part out yet :roll:

If yer using something other than a pot head, I have no idea.

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Re: how much distillate to throw away

Postby Mud Mechanik » Tue May 03, 2011 1:49 pm

With a 1 gallon charge, it is very difficult to make proper cuts, on a 15 gallon charge, I consider the first 500ml foreshots. I know it may be overkill, but I'm in it for the best likker possible.
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Re: how much distillate to throw away

Postby ilovethisstuff » Tue May 03, 2011 3:45 pm

i thnk that i am going to throw a half of a cup away then try to get about one bottle of 40% out of it. i dont know if thats reasonable or not. but it is what i will aim for
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Re: how much distillate to throw away

Postby Dnderhead » Tue May 03, 2011 3:59 pm

in one gallon of 10% there is 14.8 oz of 100% alcohol. out of this you keep about 1/3
or about 10oz of 100% or 20 oz at 50% (100pr)this is a rough estimate.
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Re: how much distillate to throw away

Postby ilovethisstuff » Tue May 03, 2011 4:04 pm

so you think that if i throw away a half cup, then fill up a 20 ounce bottle i should get aprox 50%? that sounds good
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Re: how much distillate to throw away

Postby Dnderhead » Tue May 03, 2011 4:48 pm

there are NO MASURMENTS FOR DOING CUTS,, you need to use your senses ,,SMELL,,FEEL,,TASTE. so run off in small jars "air" a bit then save what you want.
what I gave you are just estimates.......
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Re: how much distillate to throw away

Postby blind drunk » Tue May 03, 2011 5:05 pm

so you think that if i throw away a half cup, then fill up a 20 ounce bottle i should get aprox 50%? that sounds good


It's easy, but not that easy :wink:

Read this, if you haven't already -

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Re: how much distillate to throw away

Postby WalkingWolf » Tue May 03, 2011 5:08 pm

The only reason I'm adding anything on this is you appear to be "right-out-of-the-box" so I'll offer up some info. As has been stated you're making cut-learning pretty tough with only 1 gallon (read this near impossible). The fact that you are going with such a small amount I'd recommend you collect in small containers -- say 50mls at a time -- and save all of the containers. Number the containers 1 through X. Start in the middle of however many you end up with. This should give you something similar to a heart cut. Work your way to the smaller numbers and you will experience the hearts-to-heads transition. Work your way to the larger numbers and you will experience the hearts to tails transition. This will be more about the experience than any liquor you will get from this. Run the still slowly.

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Re: how much distillate to throw away

Postby ilovethisstuff » Tue May 03, 2011 5:16 pm

thanks for that suggestion. that sounds good. i should be able to get a little better of and idea of what i am going for. ( sorry i only have a 6 qt pressure cooker i know thats small)

i will just do exactally what you said then just keep all the collections that taste good and i should at least have a little bit. thanks
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Re: how much distillate to throw away

Postby WalkingWolf » Tue May 03, 2011 6:22 pm

After you've done this come back and let us know how it turned out.
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Re: how much distillate to throw away

Postby Bushman » Tue May 03, 2011 7:00 pm

WalkingWolf wrote:The only reason I'm adding anything on this is you appear to be "right-out-of-the-box" so I'll offer up some info. As has been stated you're making cut-learning pretty tough with only 1 gallon (read this near impossible). The fact that you are going with such a small amount I'd recommend you collect in small containers -- say 50mls at a time -- and save all of the containers. Number the containers 1 through X. Start in the middle of however many you end up with. This should give you something similar to a heart cut. Work your way to the smaller numbers and you will experience the hearts-to-heads transition. Work your way to the larger numbers and you will experience the hearts to tails transition. This will be more about the experience than any liquor you will get from this. Run the still slowly.

good luck

+1 I was almost going to say exactly the same thing earlier about collecting in 50 ml containers but having only run a keg boiler it would have been my opinion and I didn't want to give any false info!
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Re: how much distillate to throw away

Postby ilovethisstuff » Wed May 04, 2011 1:25 pm

WalkingWolf wrote:After you've done this come back and let us know how it turned out.


okay im going to run it tomorrow so i will let you know.
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Re: how much distillate to throw away

Postby ilovethisstuff » Fri May 06, 2011 4:40 am

okay so i took your advise and it worked well.
i threw away the first shotglass didnt really care for the smell and i know that your supposed to. after i liked the next portion tho it was strong. i could tell when i got to hearts. the beginning of the tails werent too bad to me, stoped collecting when the vaportemp hit 210.
overall i think i got 16 oz of i am guessing 60ish proof. i need to get the tool to test proof still. its not the greatest ever but im in college, so i am used to the cheep stuff. so i guess ill be able to hang in there till i get better.
but in all the run went well thanks.
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