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Cone still

Postby Zia Guca » Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:21 pm

I can't find anything on the site about this topic so excuse me if it has been covered but can anyone point out to me the common perception of advantages or disadvantages around the use of the simple cone still in distilling?
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Re: Cone still

Postby Bushman » Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:20 pm

More info is needed, are you talking about a Kentucky style moonshine still with a cylinder shaped boiler with a cone shape on top? If so most would charge the boiler leaving the top to allow the vapors to build and work their way up the column.
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Re: Cone still

Postby Zia Guca » Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:38 am

Bushman wrote:More info is needed, are you talking about a Kentucky style moonshine still with a cylinder shaped boiler with a cone shape on top? If so most would charge the boiler leaving the top to allow the vapors to build and work their way up the column.


It is the "two woks and a pot" type of still where the wash is heated in a large pot, condenses on the bottom of a round-bottom bowl filled with ice and drips down into a smaller bowl standing on a mason jar in the middle of the pot.
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Re: Cone still

Postby Dan P. » Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:53 am

Zia Guca wrote:
Bushman wrote:More info is needed, are you talking about a Kentucky style moonshine still with a cylinder shaped boiler with a cone shape on top? If so most would charge the boiler leaving the top to allow the vapors to build and work their way up the column.


It is the "two woks and a pot" type of still where the wash is heated in a large pot, condenses on the bottom of a round-bottom bowl filled with ice and drips down into a smaller bowl standing on a mason jar in the middle of the pot.


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Re: Cone still

Postby BareKnuckles » Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:54 am

Inefficiency at it's finest!!!
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Re: Cone still

Postby Dan P. » Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:17 am

BareKnuckles wrote:Inefficiency at it's finest!!!


If you want true inefficiency like this you are going to have to sacrifice quality and quantity!
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Re: Cone still

Postby Zia Guca » Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:41 am

Well yes, but on the other hand one does not have anything other than common household kitchen equipment in one's domicile. And if one is not greedy, so much the better? I guess my question is has anyone any experience with the drinkability of the output with regard to the requirement to filter, etc?
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Re: Cone still

Postby Prairiepiss » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:01 am

You will not have a safe way to make cuts. So you will end up collecting everything. This will give you a product that will taste like crap. And also give you a real nice headache. No amount of filtering will make it ad good as could be made with a proper still. A pot still is very simple to make with common kitchen items. And a little copper tubing. Unless you out to make some nasty rotgut crap. I would suggest forgetting you ever saw a ice wok still.
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Re: Cone still

Postby BareKnuckles » Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:21 pm

Kinda like prison hooch...
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Re: Cone still

Postby Zia Guca » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:15 pm

What if a person was making something other than neutral spirits? Please forgive my lack of knowledge here, but I've read that a lot of the flavor of things like rum and whiskey come from the volatiles that are distilled off along with the alcohol. And if someone is interested in only consuming an ounce or two at a time, mixed perhaps with soda or fruit juice to make a punch, would that make the hangover issue less of a problem? I have read that there is not a great deal of methanol in the typical sugar or malt fermentation and that very moderate consumption is not a significant toxicicity issue. Is that true?
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Re: Cone still

Postby Prairiepiss » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:22 pm

Maybe you didn't read my post earlier.

Prairiepiss wrote:You will not have a safe way to make cuts. So you will end up collecting everything. This will give you a product that will taste like crap. And also give you a real nice headache. No amount of filtering will make it ad good as could be made with a proper still. A pot still is very simple to make with common kitchen items. And a little copper tubing. Unless you out to make some nasty rotgut crap. I would suggest forgetting you ever saw a ice wok still.


Pretty simple. If you want to make some rot gut headache giving crap. Go for it. :thumbup:
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Re: Cone still

Postby whiskeytripping » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:40 pm

Zia guca, if your wanting to drink something that you don't have to spend a lot of money building a still, just drink the cheapest swill at the liquor store. It's cheap and shit, AND you'll most likely get a headache.

I'm really not sure of the question your asking, your not going to listen to what people are telling you, like everyone has told you, it will not taste good, and you will get a headache. It will smell good though :thumbup:
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