How fast is too fast for spirit run?
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Re: How fast is too fast for spirit run?
An alternative to a power controller is detailed in "the compleat distiller", basically an arrangement of switches which allows you to run the elements individually or in series or parallel. This gives you more different power levels.
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Perth, mate.
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When I spoke to the guy, he said he had only 10L available. $275 inc.jayka wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:44 am I paid $125 for my 5lt kegland barrel and a 5lt from Cooper is $180 so I think a reasonable price for aussie made. I know $50 is $50 and I would have struggled with that to begin with but I was honestly about to throw my kegland in the bin. Was dripping for a month. Also the Cooper barrel last step on the prep instructions is if still leaking after 24 hrs call him. Can't argue with that
Might check again, given this new info.
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I am all for supporting our local business. I felt really bad ordering still parts from China, especially given the current politics. But, I'm not a rich man, and ordering local would have costed me triple.Saltbush Bill wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:25 am Support an Aussie Cooper instead of sending your money OS........you will get what you pay for. Cheap rubbish or a well made barrel made by a craftsman. Just because its made of secondhand oak staves doesn't mean its an inferior product.
Nothing against second hand staves. For Whiskey, that's what they use in Scotland. Ex Bourbon barrels from Kentucky. So its actually better for what I'm doing.
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Might not be the same guy. Here is the instructions with phone number. If not talk to lager land in bunburygwizard wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:40 amWhen I spoke to the guy, he said he had only 10L available. $275 inc.jayka wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:44 am I paid $125 for my 5lt kegland barrel and a 5lt from Cooper is $180 so I think a reasonable price for aussie made. I know $50 is $50 and I would have struggled with that to begin with but I was honestly about to throw my kegland in the bin. Was dripping for a month. Also the Cooper barrel last step on the prep instructions is if still leaking after 24 hrs call him. Can't argue with that
Might check again, given this new info.
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Beeswax is useful for sealing leaks. I have also used a heat gun with bees-wax to work it into the leak.
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Re: How fast is too fast for spirit run?
So just to answer my own question and or the issues suggested that have come up in the thread. I just want to say what I have learnt from running at full speed and tasting after. Mainly for any new person who may be asking the same question.
First off I should say that i did run half of the spirit run with the small element. Only switching over to the larger element half way through when it started to struggle.
When I started tasting I started from the first cut when I turned on the big element and worked my way up to the heads.
(I believe this is the opposite way that is recommended but I wanted to taste the proper cuts first)
As I worked my way up I could really taste differences between each cut even to the point where I said "I think the next jar will be heads" and the next jar was AMAZING! So very clear flavour differences.
After that I started working my way down through the cuts I made while running the large element.
Pretty much every jar was indistinguishable from the next. there was no distinct "Tails" flavour and ABV was still around 75% but I stopped when I got my 5lt and didnt taste further.
The cuts did keep going but I just decided to keep for another run. as the ABV dropped it started to get pretty cloudy and within 1.5lt it had dropped from 60%down to 20%
In future I would definitely run slower (probably not 500w) but once I have a power controller maybe around the 700w-1000w mark.
Thanks everyone for their advise and help.
First off I should say that i did run half of the spirit run with the small element. Only switching over to the larger element half way through when it started to struggle.
When I started tasting I started from the first cut when I turned on the big element and worked my way up to the heads.
(I believe this is the opposite way that is recommended but I wanted to taste the proper cuts first)
As I worked my way up I could really taste differences between each cut even to the point where I said "I think the next jar will be heads" and the next jar was AMAZING! So very clear flavour differences.
After that I started working my way down through the cuts I made while running the large element.
Pretty much every jar was indistinguishable from the next. there was no distinct "Tails" flavour and ABV was still around 75% but I stopped when I got my 5lt and didnt taste further.
The cuts did keep going but I just decided to keep for another run. as the ABV dropped it started to get pretty cloudy and within 1.5lt it had dropped from 60%down to 20%
In future I would definitely run slower (probably not 500w) but once I have a power controller maybe around the 700w-1000w mark.
Thanks everyone for their advise and help.
Sooner or later the people who run the planet all end up choosing one drink....
Re: How fast is too fast for spirit run?
I have noticed that there is a NZ supplier for European barrels.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/home-living/k ... 51a0ec-001
If that's any help?
He does a whole heap of sized and bands etc.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/home-living/k ... 51a0ec-001
If that's any help?
He does a whole heap of sized and bands etc.
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Re: How fast is too fast for spirit run?
Can you get beeswax in sticks to go into the gun?jonnys_spirit wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:48 pm Beeswax is useful for sealing leaks. I have also used a heat gun with bees-wax to work it into the leak.
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That’s what I was thinking, Margaret River would be a lot closer for you then Brisbane roll out a barrel.
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Hi Geoff,The Baker wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:20 amCan you get beeswax in sticks to go into the gun?jonnys_spirit wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:48 pm Beeswax is useful for sealing leaks. I have also used a heat gun with bees-wax to work it into the leak.
Cheers!
-jonny
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My heat gun is a shrink-wrap heat gun for dressing cables but i also use it for PVC shrink wrap bottle closures. When i’ve used beeswax to seal a barrel i use the gun sorta like soldering - to heat the area to treat then rub the wax into the spot where it’s weeping from and it’s drawn into the pores. Sand/buff the area to remove excess with some fine sandpaper and repeat until the leak is patched. It usually takes a few applications but has worked well in every case so far. The beeswax is pretty soft so it probably won’t work in a hot glue gun.
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Re: How fast is too fast for spirit run?
Hi, Johnny,
I was thinking of the 'craft' glue gun that my wife has. It takes small sticks of glue.
Thanks.
Geoff
I was thinking of the 'craft' glue gun that my wife has. It takes small sticks of glue.
Thanks.
Geoff
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