FLUTE TALK

[Mr.Spooky]

someone please explain to me...... i was looking at most of the flute/plated columns and noticed that the product condensor was so long (mine is about 15")..... what i was wandering was,,, sence a shotgun deflag is about 4"x6" or so,, and can achieve 100% reflux,,, why couldent you use the exact same shotgun condensor as a product condensor.
spooky

[Mr.Spooky]

Quick Question: Does it matter if a flute is made out of Copper or Stainless Steel?

EDIT: I feel like making a flute myself some time this summer. Though first of all, I think I should learn how the flute exactly works. Anyone care to show a drawing that explains pretty much everything?

as with any still,, no it does not matter,, though (I),, and alot others would sudgest puting copper in the vapor path.
and as far as explaining how everything works,,,,,, this thread has about 84 pages of good starting material.
spooky

[olddog]

, why couldent you use the exact same shotgun condensor as a product condensor.

Why not, when I was first developing the Flute build, I was using my leibig from my potstill to test the column, it worked great but it was not very tidy, so I built the Graham condenser purely to keep things looking tidy. You can use any type of condenser as long as it knocks down the vapor.



OD

[Mr.Spooky]

cool,,, thanks OD!!!!
soooo ,,, doesanyonehaveabout12"of4"theywannacomeoffof ??????? ill make 2 shotgun condensors the exact same size and see if it works.
spooky

[olddog]

Spooky What happened to that condenser you made with all of that great looking machine finish



OD

[Mr.Spooky]

i still have it, i was just gonna try to make a shotgun deflag condensor and then have a same size product condensor that connected via 2" triclamp.
oh,,, BTW, i think that i got a low spot in the coil on that grahm.... it surges
spooky

[lordmango]

Quick question: Is it possible to make a flute of 2 inch copper tubing instead of 4? And what would the outtake most likely be if it's possible?
I kinda want to make a flute myself, but around here it's pretty hard to get hold of 4 inch tubing.

[Kiwi-lembic]

I kinda want to make a flute myself, but around here it's pretty hard to get hold of 4 inch tubing.

going through my stainless pile ..i found all different size stainless chimney flues the other day ..they made them in quite a few dimensions around the 8 - 4" ,some of them have substantial enough wall thickness and with the nickel content in stainless makes them quite hard ...just food for thought ..may help may not KIwi-L

[Thorn_veritas]

Od has said before he has trialed this in 2". Your output would be alot less but quicker than most other 2". Hard time doin sight glasses. I was gunna do it in 2 1/2 " but decided against it. and I wou dmt bother.with the exremest of a graham liebigs work that what these flutes started with.

All in all yes it can be done. But I personally think it would be to much hassle in 2". But its up to you to do it and report findings to the board.

[lordmango]

All in all yes it can be done. But I personally think it would be to much hassle in 2".

Well, when you put it that way... I don't think I'll do it. I already have a VM that's being welded for me right at this moment, so I do have a still to use. I just wanted to maybe try out making a Flute for 2 reasons:
#1: It's a damn good looking still.
#2: It would be nice to try making a still that needs quite alot work and I could also learn how to solder better at the same time.

All in all, I just wanted to try it out, but if it really doesn't work as well with a 2 inch one compared to a 4 inch one, I think I'll scrap my whole project and just stick to the VM I'm getting. Might end up experimenting on something else later on.
LordMango

[Austin Nichols]

Od has said before he has trialed this in 2". Your output would be alot less but quicker than most other 2". Hard time doin sight glasses. I was gunna do it in 2 1/2 " but decided against it. and I wou dmt bother.with the exremest of a graham liebigs work that what these flutes started with.

All in all yes it can be done. But I personally think it would be to much hassle in 2". But its up to you to do it and report findings to the board.

I disagree!

I reckon a 2" flute would kick ass, not as fast as 4" but then you'd be a fool to think it would be........... no reason why it cant be scaled down some more and still be very effective.

[Kiwi-lembic]

Found this in A VM-ARC search yesterday ..couldnt read what it was saying it looks as though they were using it as a centering column