CCVM: what's in a name

[Odin]

Okay, it seems to be the new kid in town. CCVM. I think it stands for Column Cooler Vapor Management? But what do we really manage via the diagonally mounted and movable column cooler? Vapors? Or liquids? If it is reflux we manage, shouldn't it be called CCLM? LM standing for liquid management?

Regards, Odin.

[jedneck]

ccvm= condesor controlled vapor manegment
cclm =condenser controlled liquid manegment
thats all i can help with

[still_stirrin]

Odin, on a CCVM, the csst (corrigated stainless steel tubing) acts as a vapor valve, which in turn regulates the reflux ratio (by the vapor which bypasses the condenser "valve" and moves on to the product condenser).

On a LM, there is a valve which drains the liquid, thereby regulating the reflux ratio (by the spill back to the column).
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[Odin]

Odin, on a CCVM, the csst (corrigated stainless steel tubing) acts as a vapor valve, which in turn regulates the reflux ratio (by the vapor which bypasses the condenser "valve" and moves on to the product condenser).

On a LM, there is a valve which drains the liquid, thereby regulating the reflux ratio (by the spill back to the column).
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So what do you take out of the column on a CCVM, StillStirring? Is it vapors like on a VM or liquids as on an LM?

Regards, Odin.

[still_stirrin]

The vapors...to the product condenser.

[Odin]

All right, if you collect the vapors, it's vm to me. Clarified. Thanks!

Odin.

[still_stirrin]

The condenser controlled liquid managed reflux head collects condensate in a liquid cup, which like the more traditional Boka design, regulates how much liquid is returned to the column for reflux.

The CCVM's have a separate product condenser....look at Dad's.
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[Kegg_jam]

I think manu's original design could have been considered an LM.

DAD300's take on it was how the CCVM took off.

[DAD300]

You guys got it. Moving the Reflux Condenser (opens the valve) and lets vapor out to the product condenser.

The first moving Reflux Condenser I saw, thank you manu, either blocked or allowed Liquid to a small take off.

[Odin]

So it can be LM as well as VM, right?

Regards, Odin.

[Hound Dog]

So it can be LM as well as VM, right?

Regards, Odin.

Manu's design would be LM as it takes liquid from the column. (See below)

Liquid Management r.gif (4.1 KiB) Viewed 1978 times

DAD's set up closes off the path that vapor exits the column making it a VM (see below)

Movable Reflux Condenser II.png (38.48 KiB) Viewed 1978 times

[Odin]

Thanks Hound!

Regards, Odin.

[thecroweater]

Seen Dad300s design a few times while in the US, simple and yet very cool

[FreeMountainHermit]

Wondering if the CCVM column will automatically shut down when the tails taper off as its valved brethren are reputed to do ?

Thoughts ?