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hi all, advise on pot

Postby will_2012 » Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:27 am

Hi to all on here
I,m a newbie to all this distilling and was looking to construct my first still I have been researching on google and youtube for a couple of months
to save time and money on making a copper pot from scratch would it be possible to use a domestic copper water heater tank (I have been offered a new one for £80 still in packaging)
as it also has the coil inside it that would double as a worm once removed.
thanks in advance and sorry if this is hard to read writing is not my forte lol
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Re: hi all, advise on pot

Postby Coyote » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:36 am

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Re: hi all, advise on pot

Postby will_2012 » Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:52 am

cheers for the reply I'll be reading up on here as soon as i have the chance but was wondering if its worth bothering with the copper tank if there is any problems with these before i do anything with it
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Re: hi all, advise on pot

Postby Coyote » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:13 pm

Must be copper not brass

Must be soldered with lead free solder

Test the solder with lead test kit available at your local hardware store

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Re: hi all, advise on pot

Postby Soldat Louis » Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:06 am

If it's new and made in the last 20 years (lead free), it's a bargain.
I just bought a used water heater tank, with the coil in it. But I had to spend a few hours cleaning it up.
You might not be able to remove the coil without cutting it (it's been installed before final closing of the tank).
The pros of a water tank are that all in/out plugs are already here (for drainage, mash pumping, thermometer, etc.) and if not used can be fitted with plugs (to be used later or not).

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That's the one I bought a few days ago, currently undergoing some changes :)

And it would make no sense to have a water heater tank in brass (it's heavy and average thermal conductivity). You'll have some brass fittings on it, and it's not a problem, they're all food grade anyway (on a water tank)
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Re: hi all, advise on pot

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Re: hi all, advise on pot

Postby will_2012 » Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:50 am

thanks for the help everyone. think i'll get a lead solder test kit and remove the brass purely because i'm paranoid lol
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Re: hi all, advise on pot

Postby Soldat Louis » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:53 am

Again, you won't have lead in solders made recently. Think about it, what manufacturer in his right mind would use lead solder in a water heater tank ?
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Re: hi all, advise on pot

Postby myles » Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:34 am

UK domestic tanks are very thin - less than 0.5mm - and use the insulation to provide rigidity. Also the outside of the copper has a strange coating that tastes and smells real bad if you try to abrade it off :oops:

That said the internal coils are usefull, and there are ways to stiffen the thin copper by adding in soldered seams. The top and bottom domes are very strong, spun copper in a heavier weight copper, and are worth salvaging even if you dont use the thin copper walls. There are a few examples where the cylinder has been shortened to make a nice pot boiler. They do have potential but think carefully about how you intend to heat the boiler, the thin copper won't like gas very much.
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