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Turbo Clear

Postby gsmedia » Fri May 29, 2009 8:17 am

Hi guys,
Do any of you use clearing agents such as turbo clear before you run a batch?
Could they add off flavours or have any other negative effects?
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Re: Turbo Clear

Postby LWTCS » Fri May 29, 2009 5:31 pm

I think you will find that most Gents here prefer to stay away from all things turbo.

I keep ferments going frequently and rack to the fridge. My washes clear very nicely in a day or so.

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Re: Turbo Clear

Postby guerrila distilla » Fri May 29, 2009 10:13 pm

i use a couple of lightly whisked egg whites(not too much, you'll end up with merangue sitting on top of your wash :D ), wait 12 hours and add a small pack of bentonite(available for pennies from brew shops, it's basically a powdered type of clay). usually clears nice and quick, no chemicals used.

i used to use alcotec turbo klar, and found the results were very good with my sugar washes, usually clearing in less than a day. but, it couldn't handle a plum mash. someone suggested the egg white/bentonite idea, and the mash cleared in days instead of the usual month.
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Re: Turbo Clear

Postby gsmedia » Sat May 30, 2009 9:01 pm

Yeah, I know that turbo yeasts and stills are considered the devil around these parts - I didn't know whether this extended to turbo clears. Thanks for the info.
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Re: Turbo Clear

Postby Hawke » Sun May 31, 2009 4:13 am

The Turbo line was originaly designed for fuel production. Taste was not a factor.
I havent made too many straight sugar washes, but if you use a good recipe, clearing agents shouldn't be needed. A day or two in the fridge, after racking, is usually enough for the ones in the Tried and True section.
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Re: Turbo Clear

Postby Ayay » Sun May 31, 2009 5:24 am

I think you will find turbo clear is essential for turbo yeasts. Non-turbo yeasts and good stillin don't need turbo clear or carbon filtering.

The turbo stillers I know have it easier and they are happy with the results. They have no desire to go above the 'goodenough' which aint too bad anyway. My mistakes with non-turbos may be worse but I have achieved a superior product on occasion and I am driven to learn how to get it consistently with a wide range of recipes.

To me turbos are false economy, but if you have a small capacity still and follow the turbo path there is some good drinkin to be had all the same.
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Re: Turbo Clear

Postby gsmedia » Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:34 pm

I dumped turbo yeast pretty quick (mainly because the result tasted like methanol and fire). I'll give the egg whites a go on my next run. Putting the wash in the fridge isn't really an option, so long as I want to eat :(
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Re: Turbo Clear

Postby Hack » Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:05 pm

I do whiskys and brandys. Just letting it sit for a few days after fermentation stops is all I do to clear my washes. A fridge just makes it a little quicker, but isn't necessary.
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Re: Turbo Clear

Postby HookLine » Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:17 pm

Same here.

I do rum and vodka, and all I do is let the ferment sit for 2-3 days after the bubbling has completely stopped. Then rack it off into another container and let it sit for another 2-3 days. Then rack it off into the still.

If you want them ultra clear, just let it sit for several days the second time.
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Re: Turbo Clear

Postby randomdistiller » Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:04 am

I know this is a really old thread but does anyone know WHAT Turbo Clear actually is? I mean what is actually in it? Watching the video it looked like a big package of mixed up gelatin. I have a lot of gelatin for homebrewing (I mean a TON.. like 25lb) and figure if this is somewhere I can use it I may as well. I used it in the amount suggested for beer in my first whiskey wash but that took a few days to clear (no big deal to wait that long) at the same time the video shows a sugar wash clearing in 24 hours after adding the turbo clear. That being said I'm wondering if I just whip up a larger amount of gelatin if it would just take 24 hours to clear or if it'd produce any negative side effects. Any input with this would be appreciated, thanks!

Again, I know patience is a virtue and I don't mind waiting a few days for a wash to clear and I haven't even made my first sugar wash yet, but if I can find somewhere to use this gelatin (aside from dumping it into a swimming pool) that would be great, thanks!
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Re: Turbo Clear

Postby Odin » Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:41 am

RD,

Turbo clear usually consists of two "agents". And they are needed for turbo washes, because - contrary to the washes presented in the tried & true recipees department - they do not clear very easy. The first "agent" is a signaling product that tells the yeast cells to start growing hair. They do that in hostile environments to stick together, get down on the bottom and in doing so shelter the inner yeast cells so that when the environment becomes less hostile reproduction can restart. The second "agent" is put in 1 or 2 hours later. Basically, it consists of long molecules. Giving the already "hairy" yeast cells someting to get entangled in and so speeding the process of them becoming heavier and sinking to the bottom.

About the things you want to use, I do not know.

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Re: Turbo Clear

Postby randomdistiller » Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:13 pm

Odin wrote:RD,

Turbo clear usually consists of two "agents". And they are needed for turbo washes, because - contrary to the washes presented in the tried & true recipees department - they do not clear very easy. The first "agent" is a signaling product that tells the yeast cells to start growing hair. They do that in hostile environments to stick together, get down on the bottom and in doing so shelter the inner yeast cells so that when the environment becomes less hostile reproduction can restart. The second "agent" is put in 1 or 2 hours later. Basically, it consists of long molecules. Giving the already "hairy" yeast cells someting to get entangled in and so speeding the process of them becoming heavier and sinking to the bottom.

About the things you want to use, I do not know.

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I'm hairy enough I don't need my wash to be. The gelatin has worked well with the beer and wash I've used it in so far, I'll continue that process. Thanks for the info!
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