Liquid malt for whiskey

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Liquid malt for whiskey

Postby Fed » Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:02 pm

Hi there,

I want to make a whiskey of sorts. Been a brewin for 6 months and so far made a number of good neutrals and a couple of great rums. Want to make a scotch whiskey without the trouble of dealing with the grains, etc. I've read you can use liquid malt in the same manner as I use molasses for rum. was going to use the malt that homebrewed beer is made from. Should I use a similar ratio as molasses? has anyone tried it, if so, what were the results like?

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Re: Liquid malt for whiskey

Postby NcHooch » Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:44 pm

Fed,
Get many invitations to parties with a name like that? ;)

You can definitely make a scotch with liquid malt extract ...I'm sure it's been done many times and produced excellent results ...the drawback is you may find it expensive .... prolly need 10 pounds of LME/ 5 gallon batch, and I''d be inclined to use a small amount to crushed peated malt in a muslin bag as well.
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Re: Liquid malt for whiskey

Postby Fed » Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:12 pm

NcHooch wrote:Fed,
Get many invitations to parties with a name like that? ;)

You can definitely make a scotch with liquid malt extract ...I'm sure it's been done many times and produced excellent results ...the drawback is you may find it expensive .... prolly need 10 pounds of LME/ 5 gallon batch, and I''d be inclined to use a small amount to crushed peated malt in a muslin bag as well.


My handle doesn't represent my size either! Cost is a consideration, but the challenge outweighs it. Rum costs me approx $30 for a return of 10 bottles at 40%. At $60 for 10 bottles of malt liquir still represents good value and the satisfaction of making it myself.. Peat malt, now there is an idea. will post when it's done and aged a little.
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Re: Liquid malt for whiskey

Postby markbec » Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:09 am

I'm about to use a liquid malt for whisky...hopefully it turns out ok. Going to use cracked rye and barley for flavour. Want to achieve a single malt scotch whisky without the hassle of a mash. The corn taste just isn't for me. Has anyone completed a liquid malt here with good results??
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Re: Liquid malt for whiskey

Postby Odin » Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:31 am

Single malt Scotch is just that ... made from malted barley alone. No cracked rye in that recipe.

I did a liquid malt for whiskey. Was not impressed, but maybe it were my skills.

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Re: Liquid malt for whiskey

Postby heartcut » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:08 am

If you use dry or liquid malt extract for stilling, boil it till you get a protein break before you run it or it'll foam up while you're running it. It's been a long time, but I remember cleaning up the mess pretty well.
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Re: Liquid malt for whiskey

Postby johnny108 » Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:36 pm

Liquid malt extract whiskey is my favorite.
I make an Irish whiskey, usually: 10-12lbs of syrup in 5 gallons of water, brought to a boil, cooled quickly, and a couple of packets of dry ale yeast (Doric, Cooper's, or EDME). If you have access to the anti-gas medicine "Beano"- USE IT!! Just add 3-5 pills worth at the same time you add the yeast. (it breaks down some of the more complex sugars, giving a bit more alcohol, but, more importantly, thins out the mash to help with the foaming- you can use it in homebrewing to make lighter-bodied beers.)
For a Scotch flavor- about 1-4 pounds of peated malt is steeped in about 10 quarts of water that is held at 155-160F for 30minutes, The grain is pulled/filtered out, the liquid malt extract is added to the peat-flavored water, and brought to a boil, and then cooled quickly.
I always got my peated malt from the brewshop- made it a few times- too much mess, time, etc.
When you distill it, you have to pretty carefull- it LOVES to foam over. Slow heat, de-foaming agent- whatever works for you.
Make your cuts like on a rum, age on oak you have already used once before- start drinking!
At least, this has always been my method- I've heard you can make a "peat extract" to get the smoky flavor- but I've never tried it.
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Re: Liquid malt for whiskey

Postby Fed » Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:49 pm

Thanks johnny, will give it a shot. thanks for your advice and the reicpe. May take me a while as still have upteen dozen litres of rum to go through :ebiggrin: but will try it in the spring.
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Re: Liquid malt for whiskey

Postby Hectorious » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:18 pm

Fed wrote:Thanks johnny, will give it a shot. thanks for your advice and the reicpe. May take me a while as still have upteen dozen litres of rum to go through :ebiggrin: but will try it in the spring.

I just got 12 lbs of liquid malt extract to give this a try. How did yours turn out?
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Re: Liquid malt for whiskey

Postby Fed » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:42 pm

I just got 12 lbs of liquid malt extract to give this a try. How did yours turn out?


I did my sums and found it cheaper to buy it! still sourcing somewhere to buy this cheap, in the meant time will have to stick with rum posting.php?mode=quote&f=3&p=6996098#
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