Mr P's first All Grain Wheat Whiskey.

[rtalbigr]

I've never used a mash tun either so I can't help there.

Wheat is pretty easy to mash. I have some 100% wheat whiskey in a barrel right now and I'm using some malted wheat with the rye whisky I've started working on. American wheat has a High DP. The red wheat I got has a DP of 200 and the last time I got some it had a DP or 194. I've seen American white wheat with equally high DP's. Wheat gelatinizes @ 136-147F so, unless you're worried about something in the wheat that might cause an infection, a boil is not necessary. With the high DP's it's pretty economical unless ya go to a 100% malt whisky.

With the low gel temps ya can just combine all the grain with your water at about 140-145F, let it rest there for a bit and then raise your temps to 155-158F and give it a long sacc rest.

I always let my sacc rest set until temps drop back down below 140. At above 150F your alpha is breaking up the sugar in chunks, when it drops below 150F the beta takes over and as Samohon described it sort nibbles off small pieces so ya get more fermentable sugars. An AG needs to go through both the alpa and beta rests to get good conversion. Gluco, added at pitching temps, works to make even simplier sugars so the yeast don't need to as much. However, unlike a sugar head (especially w/inverted sugar) you're still gonna have some unfermentable sugars, it's just the nature of the beast.

Piss, your techniques will improve with repitition. Experiment around but just don't change everything whole sale. Nibble around at the corners and you'll start to see what helps and what doesn't.

Big R

[Prairiepiss]

The biggest change I want to do is go from flaked to whole grain milled. Because it ie less then half the price.

[rockchucker22]

The biggest change I want to do is go from flaked to whole grain milled. Because it ie less then half the price.

Ah your just giving your wash the evil eye, scarring the yeast off, you must be one with the wash, run it with love, talk softly to it, play classical music. You know.......

[Prairiepiss]

The biggest change I want to do is go from flaked to whole grain milled. Because it ie less then half the price.

Ah your just giving your wash the evil eye, scarring the yeast off, you must be one with the wash, run it with love, talk softly to it, play classical music. You know.......

I guess me cursing it up one side and down the other isn't helping?

[rockchucker22]

The biggest change I want to do is go from flaked to whole grain milled. Because it ie less then half the price.

Ah your just giving your wash the evil eye, scarring the yeast off, you must be one with the wash, run it with love, talk softly to it, play classical music. You know.......

I guess me cursing it up one side and down the other isn't helping?

I knew it..... Eviiiil eye!

[Prairiepiss]

I knew it..... Eviiiil eye!

Ok maybe a little.

[blind drunk]

I knew it..... Eviiiil eye!

You guys Sicilian LOL ... Malocchio

[heartcut]

While I am thinking about it. Dnderhead using wheat in my mash tun with a copper manifold. Should I be thinking about using rice hauls? Everything I've read says its almost a must with wheat? But there are a few that say otherwise. One of which said using a manifold he didn't need to. But other systems he did? One of the reasons I'm going with the manifold for now. False bottom to come at a later date?

I had a home made manifold in a 10 gal cooler, got tired of the occasional stuck mash/adding rice hulls/ slow filtering, bought a false bottom and got faster draining and no more hang ups, even with white rice.

[rockchucker22]

I knew it..... Eviiiil eye!

You guys Sicilian LOL ... Malocchio

Worse welsh

[Prairiepiss]

I knew it..... Eviiiil eye!

You guys Sicilian LOL ... Malocchio

Worse welsh

Irish but the wife is Sicilian.

[Prairiepiss]

While I am thinking about it. Dnderhead using wheat in my mash tun with a copper manifold. Should I be thinking about using rice hauls? Everything I've read says its almost a must with wheat? But there are a few that say otherwise. One of which said using a manifold he didn't need to. But other systems he did? One of the reasons I'm going with the manifold for now. False bottom to come at a later date?

I had a home made manifold in a 10 gal cooler, got tired of the occasional stuck mash/adding rice hulls/ slow filtering, bought a false bottom and got faster draining and no more hang ups, even with white rice.

I plan to make a false bottom too. Just a little harder to get perforated stainless sheet at the moment. So copper will be the first go.

[rtalbigr]

The biggest change I want to do is go from flaked to whole grain milled. Because it ie less then half the price.

Your methods won't change that much and I'm sure you'll find milled grains to be an interesting experience.

Us Irish don't have to worry with the evil eye, it's keepin those leprecauns happy that's the problem.

Big R