rum. own uk recipe

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so today i started of my first rum experience. i as usual have had a look at other proven (tried and true) recipes taken some inspiration and went my own (similar way) :). i rarely follow instructions and would rather forge my own path.

Ingredients:
35l of finest water available
fermentables
7.26kg of Tate & Lyle Black Treacle
3.63kg of Tate & Lyle Golden Syrup
3 kgs of soft brown sugar

yeast and nutrient (all pitched as suggested on packaging)
Young's Dried Active Yeast
Acid mix powder (a blend of citric, malic and tartaric acids.)
Young's yeast nutrient

i decided to make 2 batches simultaneously. ill have 70l total wash and combine the 2 after the striping run.

Step 1.
fill pot with sugar.
mmmm... sugar
mmmm... sugar
Step 2.
boil water and add to pot.
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Step 3.
stir pot until sugar dissolves
thick
thick
Step 4.
add nutes and stir

Step 5.
take readings
#1 OG
#1 OG
#2 OG
#2 OG
Step 6.
add yeast
pitchin
pitchin
Step 7.
profit
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Good luck woo tech... Hope it turns out, tried and true is there for a reason, but it's your batch.
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ahh what the hell, i never let fear and common sense stand in my way either!

sounds like a great recipe, hope it all works out...keep us posted!

The OG on that sounds thru the roof, hope your not stressin the little fellas.
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WooTeck wrote:Step 5.
take readings
What did you get?
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1.104 for the fisrt and 1.102 for the second. came up with the amounts of sugar on brewers friend
is said that the potential would be 11.88%
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sample @24h 1.074
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I get 13.4% - 15% potential ABV which is a bit on the high side for a good rum... It'll have more bite than you'd expect... For rum you are better off keeping the potential %ABV down in the 8% - 10% range... My last batch using dark brown sugar started at 9.675%, temperature corrected, and finished with a SG of 0.993... I ended up with 1 gallon of blended 100 proof rum from 6 gallons of wash, without diluting after pot stilling... It will become one of my goto recipes from now on...
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rad14701 wrote:I get 13.4% - 15% potential ABV which is a bit on the high side for a good rum... It'll have more bite than you'd expect... For rum you are better off keeping the potential %ABV down in the 8% - 10% range... My last batch using dark brown sugar started at 9.675%, temperature corrected, and finished with a SG of 0.993... I ended up with 1 gallon of blended 100 proof rum from 6 gallons of wash, without diluting after pot stilling... It will become one of my goto recipes from now on...
this is what i used to decide on the sugars.
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i was originally aiming for about 10-11% just so happened full and halfs of the containers projected 11.88% so i went for it. on the pros yey more booze. on the con it'll mostly be shitty. only time will tell. going to make some spiced rum. try and mimic the old sailor jerrys from when it was good, it'll help mask the shitty sections. :|
ill just have to make bigger batches next time
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rad14701 wrote:I get 13.4% - 15% potential ABV which is a bit on the high side for a good rum... It'll have more bite than you'd expect... For rum you are better off keeping the potential %ABV down in the 8% - 10% range... My last batch using dark brown sugar started at 9.675%, temperature corrected, and finished with a SG of 0.993... I ended up with 1 gallon of blended 100 proof rum from 6 gallons of wash, without diluting after pot stilling... It will become one of my goto recipes from now on...
I'm jealous.

I don't know if rum is different, but from my 12 gallon washes of UJ, I get maybe a half gallon of 76-80%, guessing diluted to 50% would give me 3/4 gallon.

Man, maybe I need to loosen the cuts purse strings ehh?
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ShineonCrazyDiamond wrote:
rad14701 wrote:I get 13.4% - 15% potential ABV which is a bit on the high side for a good rum... It'll have more bite than you'd expect... For rum you are better off keeping the potential %ABV down in the 8% - 10% range... My last batch using dark brown sugar started at 9.675%, temperature corrected, and finished with a SG of 0.993... I ended up with 1 gallon of blended 100 proof rum from 6 gallons of wash, without diluting after pot stilling... It will become one of my goto recipes from now on...
I'm jealous.

I don't know if rum is different, but from my 12 gallon washes of UJ, I get maybe a half gallon of 76-80%, guessing diluted to 50% would give me 3/4 gallon.

Man, maybe I need to loosen the cuts purse strings ehh?
nah, that's all i get (max) from a single foot run. 1.5x yeild is higher...like 4 quarts.... the feints jug fills quick tho...

Rad, whats the whole recipe? just demerara sugar, or do you add some molasses too?
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little latter at recording tonight. seems to be slowing down big time.
sample @76h 1.048
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sample @96h 1.044

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today i sampled both batches previously only sampled batch2.
sample @161.5h 1.046 batch1
sample @161.5h 1.035 batch2

i also decided to add some nutrients and give em a big old stir.
3tbs into batch1 and 2tbs into batch2
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how did this turn out then?

not a lot of treacle recipes knocking around here
It's much easier to cut a bit off than weld a bit on...
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whiskymonster wrote:how did this turn out then?

not a lot of treacle recipes knocking around here
I'd ignor this recipe & follow Rad14701's advice. Don't be greedy with rum .

For a UK virgin rum 50l total wash ( no trub or dunder ) try 9x 454g t&l black syrup ( was £6.90 for 9 on offer) + 6kg Family bargain brown sugar ( was £1.09/kg) ,1x tsp citric acid ,2x tsp dap ( wilko yeast nutrient) , Pitch 160g bakers yeast at high 20's deg c.

5 days to ferment out 2 days to clear , distill, oak age or spice. Simples.
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Ignor the ignorant wrote:
whiskymonster wrote:how did this turn out then?

not a lot of treacle recipes knocking around here
I'd ignor this recipe & follow Rad14701's advice. Don't be greedy with rum .
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I agree.
vie still not got round to the spirit run, smells very tasty though.

if your going to follow this cut the quantities down. the recipe was concaved on brewers friend. I have since moved on to beer smith 2.2 which is a shit load better. next time I will be lowering the sugar content of the wash
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I've got hold of 5 litres of NAF molasses cost about 12 quid with postage from viovet, It would probably be about 8 - 9 quid if I could find a local supplier.

I was a little disappointed when it turned up as I'd seen a post on here where someone had contacted NAF and they'd been told it was 72% sugar, on my container it stated it was 44.3% sugar. Maybe it's been reformulated?

I'm just waiting to free up a couple of fermenters (and aquarium heaters) and I'll try a molasses & black treacle rum. I'm going to calculate the sugar content to aim for 10% ABV, ferment out til dry tasting with no activity, rather than try to measure gravity with a hydrometer.

BTW, the black treacle was purchased by my daughter for 10p a tin (dated stock) she only got 5 of them! :roll: I told her she should have bought every tin in the shop at that price! :lol:
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Bigbob wrote: tried and true is there for a reason.
Yeeaah, i made this mistake early on (og over 1.100) with molasses. i didnt have a hydrometer yet and got a little impatient, did some guestimation.. resulted in a horrible spirit...horrible. Now i stick around 1.060-70 and have been better off for it.
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I'm going to take a crack at rum next year... Got to get the brandy done first though. Loving the info on UK suppliers though. Got any more?
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Mikey-moo wrote:I'm going to take a crack at rum next year... Got to get the brandy done first though. Loving the info on UK suppliers though. Got any more?
25l NAF molasses from http://www.millbryhill.co.uk for about £28 plus £7 postage or you can probably get the molasses from a tack shop or horse feed supplier in your vacinity.

I got a 7.26kg container of Tate & Lyle black treacle from a food wholesaler for £11 through my wife's work (she works in catering), quite a saving as this is currently £1.15 a 454g tin in all the major supermarkets.
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I picked up my stuff from the local cash and Cary
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Hmmm perhaps I could join a Costco?

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You could split the wash.to Lower the gravity add water and repitch the yeast to maybe save this one. And speed it up just an idea
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Well basically once the wash is made and the starting gravity is excessive you should have addressed it then by splitting and dilution...

but once its started and the wash is slowing or stopping, you can only split it dilute it add nutes balance the ph as needed and re-pitch a yeast to try and save the wash... the yeast bomb, at that point maybe should be a killer strain like EC 1118 to make sure the wash would finish out ..

Just my thinking here...

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FullySilenced wrote:Well basically once the wash is made and the starting gravity is excessive you should have addressed it then by splitting and dilution...

but once its started and the wash is slowing or stopping, you can only split it dilute it add nutes balance the ph as needed and re-pitch a yeast to try and save the wash... the yeast bomb, at that point maybe should be a killer strain like EC 1118 to make sure the wash would finish out ..

Just my thinking here...

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How did this turn out in the end?
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Is an old thread... look at the dates
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FullySilenced wrote:Is an old thread... look at the dates
It's less than two years old - I have cheese in my fridge older than that... :-)
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