Sugar Washes and Kilju

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Sugar Washes and Kilju

Postby AndyC » Thu May 17, 2012 7:31 am

Are these sugar washes safe to drink as is or as beer?

I'm assuming that all beers contain foreshots and heads and the concentration is the issue.

I also wonder if anyone has brewed a beer then put it through a brief distillation after primary fermentation to remove foreshots and heads and then gave it the secondary and conditioning leg and what the results were?


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Re: Sugar Washes and Kilju

Postby Oxbo Rene » Thu May 17, 2012 7:57 am

I like to do several stripping runs (cuttin fores, tossin tails) then a spirit run,
problem is, I keep drinkin my low wines so it takes me twice as long to do a spirit run.........
Low wines are a bit rank, but, ya get used to em ...........
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Re: Sugar Washes and Kilju

Postby Bayou-Ruler » Thu May 17, 2012 8:33 am

AndyC wrote:Are these sugar washes safe to drink as is or as beer?

I'm assuming that all beers contain foreshots and heads and the concentration is the issue.

I also wonder if anyone has brewed a beer then put it through a brief distillation after primary fermentation to remove foreshots and heads and then gave it the secondary and conditioning leg and what the results were?


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Re: Sugar Washes and Kilju

Postby Dnderhead » Thu May 17, 2012 9:02 am

""Are these sugar washes safe to drink as is or as beer?" you could,,make sure it is clear.
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"I also wonder if anyone has brewed a beer then put it through a brief distillation after primary fermentation to remove foreshots and heads and then gave it the secondary and conditioning leg and what the results were?"

this cant be done,,thats like 1/2 cooking something.
you either distill or not.
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Re: Sugar Washes and Kilju

Postby blind drunk » Thu May 17, 2012 9:09 am

Plus, I think boiled or close to boiled beer would taste terrible. That's what you'd have after you remove the foreshots. Yuk.
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Re: Sugar Washes and Kilju

Postby edge » Thu May 17, 2012 9:16 am

blind drunk wrote:Plus, I think boiled or close to boiled beer would taste terrible. That's what you'd have after you remove the foreshots. Yuk.


I am pretty sure that most commercial bottled and canned beers are Pasteurized in the US.
A lot are probably only filtered.

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Re: Sugar Washes and Kilju

Postby Dnderhead » Thu May 17, 2012 10:36 am

when beer/wine is pasteurized its "flash heated and cooled" not boiled.
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Re: Sugar Washes and Kilju

Postby AndyC » Thu May 17, 2012 10:53 am

Well if I ever do try it I'll make sure its only with something from A Busch or Coors


Gotta be better than drinking those as is!



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I guess the idea was to clean up some of the hangover producing elements leaving the main part of the alcohol and tails then prime and keg condition to later serve as beer, as most of the foreshots/heads come off at a fairly low temp boiling would not seem to be a problem.

If I ever get set up, someday I'll try it, everyone gets stuck with A Busch or Coors at some point.

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Re: Sugar Washes and Kilju

Postby blind drunk » Thu May 17, 2012 11:00 am

I am pretty sure that most commercial bottled and canned beers are Pasteurized in the US.


Miller time :mrgreen:
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Re: Sugar Washes and Kilju

Postby Prairiepiss » Thu May 17, 2012 12:10 pm

Are these sugar washes safe to drink as is or as beer?


Depends on what sugar wash you are talking about. And what is used for nutrients? Some you would not only get a hangover but you would get a bad case of the shits too. :sick:

And if your really just wanting to ferment something to drink. Fruit juice would be a much better choice.

Now about the beer distilling thing. The distillation process would kill off the yeast. So you wouldn't be able to bottle condition it. It would need to be force carbonated.

As for flavor? I will guess to say it would suck. Some of the flavors come from those things you are trying to remove. Plus the boil would change the flavor profile and make the yeasties blow up and cause another flavor addition. But I haven't tried it.

You could always try on your next batch if whatever. Keep out a sample. Distill it removing the fores and heads. Then mix it back together. Then compare.

Didn't someone just ask the same question about wine the other day? :think:
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Re: Sugar Washes and Kilju

Postby blind drunk » Thu May 17, 2012 12:35 pm

Didn't someone just ask the same question about wine the other day? :think:


I remember answering one the other day ...
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Re: Sugar Washes and Kilju

Postby tiny_tummies » Thu May 17, 2012 2:31 pm

AndyC wrote:I also wonder if anyone has brewed a beer then put it through a brief distillation after primary fermentation to remove foreshots and heads and then gave it the secondary and conditioning leg and what the results were?


blind drunk wrote:Plus, I think boiled or close to boiled beer would taste terrible. That's what you'd have after you remove the foreshots. Yuk.


If the distillation is done under pretty high vacuum you could maybe pull out a good amount of the foreshots/heads without heating the beer up too much. Might be better applied to something like red wine which has a bunch of methanol in it...

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