Hi there, I know this subject has been covered but my searches (yes HD Google) seem to come up with regular pot still, not Bain Marie answers.
I have only been making AG straight corn up until now sometimes with 6 row for enzymes, other times with only HT Alpha and Beta. However, now I am (roughly) duplicating the Rittenhouse Rye recipe and I recall concerns about tannens from Rye husk. But does this apply to Bain Marie? I believe that I will have to strain off the solids in this case because the temperatures will still get very high, they just won't scorch. But I defer to the more educated here.
FYI on Recipe and steps if you are interested:
9lbs malted Rye
2lbs unmalted corn
1lb 6 row (was supposed to be barley but none available)
3/4 cup of fresh-ish yellow corn from the cob I was about to throw away because it got kind of ropey with age...
Dry Distillers Yeast
6.5 gallons of water
I ground the corn very fine and cooked that for over an hour hitting boiling at times but mostly hanging around 190/195F. I let it cool naturally down to 170F, added the HTL Alpha and pitched my remaining dry grains. This brought the temp in at about 155F, I let it cool down to the 145F range and added the Beta, wrapped it up and let it sit overnight. I pitched yeast the next day at about 95F
I got great starch conversion according to iodine test (yes I know it was over-kill on the natural and added enzymes) and things have been bubbling along fine for a few days. I stir it every day to oxygenate it. I totally forgot to take an O.G. reading - duh. But I'll get a good feel for the ABV depending on output.
Bain Marie Rye - OK to distill on grain?
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Re: Bain Marie Rye - OK to distill on grain?
Sounds good
Except for the "stirring it every day to oxygenate it"
The yeast don't need anymore oxygen
Except for the "stirring it every day to oxygenate it"
The yeast don't need anymore oxygen
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Re: Bain Marie Rye - OK to distill on grain?
+1 SL
Yeast + sugar + oxygen = More yeast
Yeast + sugar = Alcohol
We are basically wanting the latter to be taking place. A good dose of oxygen at the beginning to get the yeast breeding, then let it go anaerobic.
Yeast + sugar + oxygen = More yeast
Yeast + sugar = Alcohol
We are basically wanting the latter to be taking place. A good dose of oxygen at the beginning to get the yeast breeding, then let it go anaerobic.
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Re: Bain Marie Rye - OK to distill on grain?
On a side note
Since your lucky enough to have a Bain Marie
Yes, it's ok to distill rye/corn on the grain
Since your lucky enough to have a Bain Marie
Yes, it's ok to distill rye/corn on the grain
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Re: Bain Marie Rye - OK to distill on grain?
There are plenty of neigh sayers that sprout negativity regarding distilling on the grain. Tannin carry over, yeast flavour etc.
Personally I ferment and distill on the grain and have never had any problems. I do it all in the single vessel, it's also a bain marie.
Good luck!
Ps you may want to add a defoaming agent to stop puking.
Personally I ferment and distill on the grain and have never had any problems. I do it all in the single vessel, it's also a bain marie.
Good luck!
Ps you may want to add a defoaming agent to stop puking.
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Re: Bain Marie Rye - OK to distill on grain?
Thank you all for your input, very helpful and reassuring. I have decent head-room in my bain marie so I've never had a puking issue on straight corn but since this is new I will add some of the anti-foam I've got on hand. The wash smells really good right now. I'll leave it alone and I'm glad I don't have to strain out the grains!
Re: Bain Marie Rye - OK to distill on grain?
Out of curiosity, any pics on your bain-marie setup?
Thanks,
Thanks,