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Micronized Grain - NOW WITH PHOTOS!!!

Postby Aussie Beamophile » Mon May 26, 2008 11:00 pm

Howdy folks.

I have been searching the net today for a supplier of "cracked corn" for my first UJSM brew.

I found the product below on a website and wondered if A. anyone has come accross it B. anyone can think of a reason it couldn't be used.

They have told me, whilst it is sold as stockfeed, it has nothing added to it but has been treated as described.

It almost sounds like it has been malted for want of a better word.

I'd be interested in you opinions.

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Micronizing

Grains and seeds have always played an important part in balanced nutrition. However in the raw state, cereals and legume grains may contain an inaccessible, and therefore indigestible starch structure and occasionally some anti-nutritional factors.

Infrared micronizing is a highly reliable and consistent "short time high temperature" cooking process that increases the digestibility of most grains.

One of the reasons for the improvement in digestible energy is related to the physical nature of the starch granules. To "open up" the nutrients, the starch is gelatinised.

Micronization uses humidity, temperature and mechanical pressure to achieve high levels of starch gelatinisation and reduces the potential presence of anti-nutritional factors.

The process has advantages over other dry heat or extrusion techniques. Micronizing enables rapid, even internal heating without excessive vapour loss. Infra red energy is used to make the starch matrix swell, fracture and gelatinise rapidly without excessive protein degradation or over-cooking.

This gelatinisation is very important nutritionally as it allows the horses digestive system easier access to the otherwise locked in nutrients. The increased availability of starches as simple sugars improves the energy available to the horse.

The heating process greatly enhances the palatability of the product.

"Horses love the roasted flavour!"

Why does your horse need micronized grains?

Enhanced digestibility and increased nutritional value.
Starches are broken down and absorbed mainly in the small intestine as simple sugars.
Less starch passes to the large intestine and caecum. There is less fermentation of starches in the hindgut, leading to a reduction of lactic acid uptake and lowering the incidence of acidosis and laminitis.
Less antagonism of normal hindgut fermentation of fibre, hence less colic.
Extremely palatable flavours, particularly useful when fed as part of a coarse feed mix.

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Re: Micronized Grain

Postby Hawke » Mon May 26, 2008 11:32 pm

Haven't heard of the process, but if it breaks the starch into simple sugars it should work. Probably way more expensive than cracked corn (AKA: Cracked maise).
Depending on how much starch has been converted, you will need to adjust the sugar content accordingly.
I recently did a batch with only .5 pound of malt barley added, it converted enough of the corn that I ended up with some off flavors from stressed yeast.
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Re: Micronized Grain

Postby gitchegumee » Mon May 26, 2008 11:43 pm

It sure sounds to me like this corn is merely gelatinized. It would be the same as flaked corn: using high temperature rollers and steam to cook the grain. Like instant oats vs. raw oats, or quick grits vs. instant. Except in this case, the corn is not reduced to grits. Or is it?
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Re: Micronized Grain

Postby punkin » Tue May 27, 2008 12:03 am

gitchegumee wrote:It sure sounds to me like this corn is merely gelatinized. It would be the same as flaked corn: using high temperature rollers and steam to cook the grain. Like instant oats vs. raw oats, or quick grits vs. instant. Except in this case, the corn is not reduced to grits. Or is it?


I think Gitches got it, but it'd make a fine basis for a ujsm i reckon.


Is there a farmers Co-op or a big horse food place near ya?

Just ask for cracked corn, usually sold by the twenty kilo bag in Aus 8)
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Re: Micronized Grain

Postby BW Redneck » Wed May 28, 2008 12:36 pm

I'd say try it. As long as it hasn't been treated with preservatives, go ahead. Try to make the same thing with regular, untreated corn and compare 'em. If you like one, use it. If you can't tell the difference, use the one that is cheaper/more accessible.

One thing to note though, is that you probably couldn't use this stuff to germinate for malt. Of course, if mechanical pressure means "crushed", then you wouldn't be able to use it anyway.
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Re: Micronized Grain

Postby Aussie Beamophile » Wed May 28, 2008 8:15 pm

Thanks guys, you have been most helpful as usual.

I have been trying to find clean cracked corn/maize but have been struggling to find a product that doesn't have a heap of chaff/leaf product left in it.

I will keep searching but if I have no luck I might try this stuff. I was planning on making my first brew an UJSM so it may be fine.

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Re: Micronized Grain

Postby Dnderhead » Wed May 28, 2008 9:35 pm

I just use cracked feed corn ,the chaff, sticks will float to the top just skim off besides that foreign mater gives the mash "character" :shock:
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Re: Micronized Grain

Postby punkin » Wed May 28, 2008 9:40 pm

Dnderhead wrote:I just use cracked feed corn ,the chaff, sticks will float to the top just skim off besides that foreign mater gives the mash "character" :shock:



Same here, any dried sticks, chaff, dried grasshoppers or rat shit just float to the top and get skimmed off.






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Re: Micronized Grain

Postby Dnderhead » Wed May 28, 2008 10:05 pm

Iv even ate that stuff by the bowl full just wash it cook it ,goes good with brown sugar/molasses and milk and the distillers grain goes good in corn bread/biscuits (very high in protein) what I dont eat makes the chickens happy (yes I'm an old hillbilly from way back)
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Re: Micronized Grain

Postby Aussie Beamophile » Wed May 28, 2008 11:15 pm

If you were making a UJSM would you guys put the grotty cracked corn into a bucket, fill with water, remove debris from top, then drain and add to UJSM brew?

Or would this remove some of the good stuff as well?

If using a "Brewers Bag" with the corn in it would this solve the issue off the floaties (bit worried about the rat nuggets but!!??)

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Re: Micronized Grain

Postby punkin » Wed May 28, 2008 11:42 pm

Just chuck it in mate, i made it up about the rat turds.











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Re: Micronized Grain

Postby jdonly1 » Thu May 29, 2008 12:14 am

Aussie Beamophile wrote:If you were making a UJSM would you guys put the grotty cracked corn into a bucket, fill with water, remove debris from top, then drain and add to UJSM brew?

Or would this remove some of the good stuff as well?

If using a "Brewers Bag" with the corn in it would this solve the issue off the floaties (bit worried about the rat nuggets but!!??)

Cheers.

Just get a sieve and take off any of the floaters :wink:
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