Tomato Beer, Brandy???

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Tomato Beer, Brandy???

Postby CyberPirate » Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:55 pm

I saw a recipe for a Tomato Beer in the book More Mountain Spirits, has anyone tried this, and if you have, would it make some kind of brandy?? Thanks for any info.
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Re: Tomato Beer, Brandy???

Postby goose eye » Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:40 pm

ole boys make wine but they aint ever charged none

so im tole
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Re: Tomato Beer, Brandy???

Postby Cornbread » Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:33 pm

Tomato Beer ought to go in that same book with Bacon Vodka. LOL :D
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Re: Tomato Beer, Brandy???

Postby HookLine » Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:35 pm

I think tomato paste based sugar washes taste okay about halfway through the ferment (= about 5% abv). You would need to stop the ferment and remove the yeast to make it properly drinkable, But the taste was alright, bit sweet, but quite drinkable.

But don't taste so good after fully fermenting out (10% abv).
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Re: Tomato Beer, Brandy???

Postby Dnderhead » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:10 pm

Did a little looking ,, tomato beer is beer with tomato added ,from what i could fiend,(also called red beer)
but they do make tomato wine witch is tomato ,sugar a variety of other fruits like oranges.
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Re: Tomato Beer, Brandy???

Postby The Baker » Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:38 pm

CyberPirate wrote:I saw a recipe for a Tomato Beer in the book More Mountain Spirits, has anyone tried this, and if you have, would it make some kind of brandy?? Thanks for any info.


I've been thinking about that, too.

There are a lot of tomato growers within forty kilometers of my place (one small scale grower in my town) and I could possibly get heaps of them that are just too ripe for tomato sauce/ketchup.

Maybe even get a pick-up full of them from one of the processors - for our pigs, of course....

Perhaps with a comparatively small quantity of sugar, a little water, and some soda to adjust the high acid pH.
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Re: Tomato Beer, Brandy???

Postby Dnderhead » Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:30 pm

at 2.6% sugar I thank your going to have to add more than a "little" sugar. you better figure almost the same as a sugar wash with tomatoes as flavor.
I don't know what they weigh but say 50lb to the bushel, that whould take two bushel to be the same as 2.6 lb of sugar.or a little over 1kg
so you whould have about 1.8 abv wash . so you whould git maybe 1L of 50% alcohol out of 1o gal. (40L) wash. by the you figure loss and cuts?

(these are just estaments)
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Re: Tomato Beer, Brandy???

Postby The Baker » Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:30 am

Dnderhead wrote:at 2.6% sugar I thank your going to have to add more than a "little" sugar. you better figure almost the same as a sugar wash with tomatoes as flavor.
I don't know what they weigh but say 50lb to the bushel, that whould take two bushel to be the same as 2.6 lb of sugar.or a little over 1kg
so you whould have about 1.8 abv wash . so you whould git maybe 1L of 50% alcohol out of 1o gal. (40L) wash. by the you figure loss and cuts?

(these are just estaments)


Thanks, Dnderhead, you have certainly lowered my enthusiasm for that idea!
Doesn't look as though it would be worth the effort.
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Re: Tomato Beer, Brandy???

Postby Dnderhead » Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:28 am

most fruits and vegetables are not that high in sugar. most fruits are 6-10% with a few exceptions like dates.
same way with veges. most are lower, there exceptions like jerusalem artichoke, possibly beets. most
taste sweet not because of high sugar but because of a combination of acids and sugars that enhance each other.
Iv had some request for "all fruit" witch can be done but with low yield. take peaches or cherries, their about
12% sugar, so you'd have about 10% wash, that will give you 10gal (40L)alcohol per. 100 hundred gal. (400L) of wash.
that is not that bad, but unless you have access to lots of fruit cheep its not worth it. so do not go to your local
store and buy a bag of fruit and expect to make something out of it. I'm working on a way to do this but do to
weather I'm sitting on my ideas until spring.
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Re: Tomato Beer, Brandy???

Postby MuleKicker » Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:43 am

Cornbread wrote:Tomato Beer ought to go in that same book with Bacon Vodka. LOL :D


Couldnt have said it better myself :D
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Re: Tomato Beer, Brandy???

Postby LWTCS » Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:08 am

I'm tellin ya, The BLT.

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Re: Tomato Beer, Brandy???

Postby Cornbread » Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:32 am

OH MY GOD YOU ARE RIGHT Lettuce Wine
2 1/2 lbs / 1,100 grams lettuce - including red lettuce
3 lbs / 1,350 grams sugar
1 teaspoon citric acid
Wine yeast
8 pints / 1 gallon water

Wash and chop lettuces. It is important to include red lettuces, to give the lettuce wine a rose colour. Add the lettuce to a saucepan of boiling water and simmer for around 15 minutes. Strain lettuce liquor thoroughly and pour into winemaking fermentation bucket. Add all of the remaining lettuce wine ingredients, except for the wine yeast, and stir vigorously to dissolve all of the sugar.

When the lettuce wine mixture has cooled to room temperature, add the activated wine yeast to begin fermentation. Stir the lettuce wine 'must' twice daily for three days and then transfer to demijohn. Rack after two months, and then again two more times until completely clear and stable. Bottle lettuce wine and allow to stand for several months before drinking.
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Re: Tomato Beer, Brandy???

Postby Cornbread » Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:33 am

You gotta try it LWTCS, before MuleKicker beats you to it. The BLT...Bacon Vodka, Lettuce wine, and Tomato beer.
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Re: Tomato Beer, Brandy???

Postby Dnderhead » Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:10 pm

and a glass of kefir on the side?
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Re: Tomato Beer, Brandy???

Postby ArcticTern » Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:16 pm

i couldnt resist trying a beer; tomatoe paste wash...
it's around 8 percent abv atm. so i had to try. abit sweet still of course; but not too shabby at all.
i'll prolly spike for the hockey game; but alas'; it's not bad as is at all.
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Re: Tomato Beer, Brandy???

Postby LWTCS » Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:18 pm

Not on the side Dnder.

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Re: Tomato Beer, Brandy???

Postby CyberPirate » Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:51 pm

Thanks very much for the help, yall are a right, dont look like it would work too well, but it was worth asking about, again thanks for the advice.
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Re: Tomato Beer, Brandy???

Postby blanikdog » Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:18 pm

Interesting thread. We had a very good tomato crop this year and the thought had occured to me. I've decided that eating the buggers is the best way to ingest tomatoes. :)

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