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Re: any % tricks ?

Postby retlaw » Wed May 09, 2012 1:37 pm

Prairiepiss wrote:Now I can't remember which is which? But if you drop some on a saucer and can lite it on fire its 50% or greater. And if it won't lite on the saucer but will lite on a spoon its between 40% and 50%. Or was it the other way around? :think: Now I don't exactly where I read that. And I don't know how true it is? You mite have to play with it.


thanks,
just tried some tests with this method,
store bought 40% was lighting on a saucer but you have to hold the flame to it for a few secounds,

the old boy used the burning spoon trick as an indicater when to stop collecting,

so i might be able to fill up the barrel after all because that stuff is mighty strong and is in need of a lot more water then i was thinking to get it to 50% for the barrel,

i took 500ml and kept adding 125 ml of h2O and then placed the spoon full in a saucer to light,
ended up putting 500ml of water in untill my educated quess was it was burning like the store bought 40%,
so booze must be around 80%ish,
so i am guessing 375ml of h2O per 500ml should get me around 50%ish,
with those numbers life is good again,
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Re: any % tricks ?

Postby Prairiepiss » Wed May 09, 2012 2:58 pm

500 @ 80% you need 300 for 50%

I would do 230 for 500 that would be closer to 55%. You will loose a little to the angels. And I like mine to be 50% when done. But that's me.
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Re: any % tricks ?

Postby RidgebackDad » Wed May 09, 2012 3:13 pm

retlaw wrote:...three weeks to ship and around 45 for shipping is what stopped me in the past...


I'm hoping that's the cost to ship the barrel?!? :wtf:
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Re: any % tricks ?

Postby retlaw » Wed May 09, 2012 3:13 pm

yeah just guessing 80%,
from the numbers from equal parts water and spirits burn like store bought,
it burns on the saucer but needs to have the light held to it for a few seconds,


just thought of another way one can check %,
by weight,
it wood be easier to stick to metric,
you would want to do it in grams,

"The density of ethanol is 0.789 g/cm3, or 0.789 kg per liter.

There are 3.7854 liters per gallon, so 1 gallon of ethanol weighs 2.987 kg.

There are 2.2046 lbs per kilogram, so 1 gallon of ethanol weighs 6.584 lbs.

Compare that with the weight of 1 gallon of water: 8.3454 lbs"
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Re: any % tricks ?

Postby blind drunk » Wed May 09, 2012 3:32 pm

Do different proofs weigh the same?
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Re: any % tricks ?

Postby Dnderhead » Wed May 09, 2012 3:45 pm

alcohol/water both weighs different,,but the difference is small and a very accurate scales and a large amount of product is needed to tell.
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Re: any % tricks ?

Postby retlaw » Wed May 09, 2012 6:35 pm

Dnderhead wrote:alcohol/water both weighs different,,but the difference is small and a very accurate scales and a large amount of product is needed to tell.



just have to think on a smaller scale,
:eugeek:
and have good scales which i have, one hundredth of a gram,
didn't even had to pull out the gunpowder grain scales,

i just did these tests:

20 drops of water weights 1g
48 drops of 40% store bought weights 1g
59 drops of what i put in my barrel weights 1g

so if 40% equals 28 extra drops, that should be each extra drop is 1.428%
and i have an extra 11 drops on top of that,
which should be an extra 15.7% over 40%,
so that should make my barrel sit at 55.7%
perfect,

all done with less then a half oz,

i did test the weights several times to get the most accurate reading because in some cases there were some slight variations in weight, just kept weighing until one number kept coming up more then the rest,

if anyone has a % meter and a good set of scales with a few extra minutes i would love to know if these figures are right,

the comformation would be:
is 55.7% of alcohol = 59 drops per gram of weight?
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Re: any % tricks ?

Postby Dnderhead » Wed May 09, 2012 6:37 pm

just go buy a hydro and git it over with!

your drops of water are like my drips,,,i came up with 40=1 g
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Postby retlaw » Wed May 09, 2012 7:21 pm

Dnderhead wrote:just go buy a hydro and git it over with!

your drops of water are like my drips,,,i came up with 40=1 g


the closest town of "not much" which i might get to every two weeks has nothing,
i live in the bush and the last time i went to the big smoke i tried but no one sells them higher then wine making,

and when shipping on the net is five times higher then the price of the product its hard to press the button,

i doubled checked my drops with the internet and they are correct at 20 per g of water,

this could change with the size of the dropper but as long as when figuring it out the same dropper is used for water and spirits there should not be a problem, unless trying to double check my figures then you would need 1 g to weight 20 drops,

if i had access to everclear i could test the drops per gram with that but that to is not sold around these parts,

i think this is a easy way to check %,
sure i might have to pull out the gun powder scales to get even more accurate numbers but that is something i can do,
checking it with a % meter at this time i can't do and is out of the question,
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Re: any % tricks ?

Postby Dnderhead » Wed May 09, 2012 7:26 pm

where you at (general) some one can help you out.
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Re: any % tricks ?

Postby edge » Thu May 10, 2012 8:04 am

Here are two threads that I think explain it very well and include movie:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3597

viewtopic.php?f=46&t=13305
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Re: any % tricks ?

Postby Prairiepiss » Thu May 10, 2012 8:39 am

I knew I read around here somewhere. Taters post is the one I read. Good find edge. :thumbup:
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