police found my still

[Hillbilly Popstar]

Lol
Poor guy.

Is there any part of your still that you can fashion into a tinfoil hat?

Might come in handy.
The drones are probably already doing flybys looking for heat signatures with infrared cameras and Fred can smell likker a mile away.

[discoreaper]

Come live in Éire, whilst the ATF serch for the one armed man

[kiwi Bruce]

i would go to a hotel for a few nights,,,

+1 that would be smart!

[goblin]

it will be a week tomorrow. i broke down the still, will try to remove it today.
they did find two pistols and 900 rounds of 9mm.
i only have 40 gallons of product
city cops dont care, ATF another story.

hope they wait a few more days, lots of stuff to move.
was in my garage only way to see the still was to go in.

[thecroweater]

40 gallons of likker they are not going to think that's personal use. You might want to move that as a priority, that amount and with the firearms they could make a really big deal out of that if they chose to

[Hillbilly Popstar]

I'd be happy if I could manage to hang on to one gallon.

[just sayin]

White knuckle time! 40 gallons, holy mackerel Andy! You might have a reasonable argument for personal consumption if it is stored in about twelve five gallon casks and the one labeled 1993 is about empty the one mark 2016 has a scratched thru 1992 on it... Just Sayin'

Good luck!

[nerdybrewer]

40 gallons? They saw that?
You left your still set up?
I hope it works out and you manage to dodge the bullet, and we all learn something valuable from this.

[frodo]

hey man, you need to get your computer out of there.

this site and all the porn pictures you been looking at are on it

just say'n

[goblin]

my still and half my booze is gone.
i dont think they want to mess with a poor old fat man.
if they want to bust me for several gallons, i will just do my time.

[Truckinbutch]

my still and half my booze is gone.
i dont think they want to mess with a poor old fat man.
if they want to bust me for several gallons, i will just do my time.

Yea , and lose your likker , too . That's the part that hurts .

[a-donovan]

If they had wanted to clip you they would have same as if they had executed warrant and came across a grow op for example. My bet is they have documented it and are reporting you to atf for investigation. Thankfully in Canada they have to have probable cause to get warrant so if your selling or gifting it i would stop and sit on your operation for now. Destruction of evidence is also an offence so be very careful of your surroundings if you plan on sinking. Id break it down and say you thought about running it and pussed out

[Haus]

Believe I would be in the wind by now

[Rastus]

i think its odd they let it go so long, if it was going to be a problem it would have been a swift hard smack and confiscated.

seems the winds of change are shifting ...

i know of a man in my community who is married to a cop... he brags about his Moonshine... heard him myself,
i played dumb and just asked him isnt that illegal? he says "oh no not if it is for personal use" well as time passes by

a little later i was in a conversation in which the chief of our local police grumbled about making a trip to the big city and
had to go by a brew shop to get some oak wood for the before mentioned dude said he flavored his whiskey with it.
I replied along with my other friend in astonishment isnt that ... illegal? he mumbled something along the lines of it being
personal use ...

again i see a pattern of the general public getting more used to the idea and not seeing the harm of it all in the big picture.
its not selling , or like a meth lab. in the common folks eyes thats 2 different things.

regardless, iffn i was goblin i would, after changing my crap filled pants, eliminate any and all evidence, and repent of stilling for a long time or until i had a new home a long distance away from the current locale.

good luck man...

[john2674]

Years ago I owned my own car repair shop in a small town. well my helper was involved in some shady pot dealings with an undercover fed agent.
They sat outside my shop every day for about 2 months in a Kirby vacuum cleaner van. it was almost a joke I would even tell them hello from time to time as I walked by and they would quickly start up and drive away! lol
Well one evening at closing time I found myself spread eagle against a wall with an assault rifle to my head while they arrested my worker. they were in and out of there in less than 5 minutes!

long story short. they might be watchin you trying to build a case.

[goose eye]

What they got there is a skeleton key they can use anytime
they get a notion.

So I'm tole

[Hillbilly Popstar]

Years ago I owned my own car repair shop in a small town. well my helper was involved in some shady pot dealings with an undercover fed agent.
They sat outside my shop every day for about 2 months in a Kirby vacuum cleaner van. it was almost a joke I would even tell them hello from time to time as I walked by and they would quickly start up and drive away! lol
Well one evening at closing time I found myself spread eagle against a wall with an assault rifle to my head while they arrested my worker. they were in and out of there in less than 5 minutes!

long story short. they might be watchin you trying to build a case.

There's nothing to build, they have all the evidence they need if they want to take action.

Some of the guys in this thread must not really understand how the police work.

[ShineonCrazyDiamond]

Years ago I owned my own car repair shop in a small town. well my helper was involved in some shady pot dealings with an undercover fed agent.
They sat outside my shop every day for about 2 months in a Kirby vacuum cleaner van. it was almost a joke I would even tell them hello from time to time as I walked by and they would quickly start up and drive away! lol
Well one evening at closing time I found myself spread eagle against a wall with an assault rifle to my head while they arrested my worker. they were in and out of there in less than 5 minutes!

long story short. they might be watchin you trying to build a case.

There's nothing to build, they have all the evidence they need if they want to take action.

Some of the guys in this thread must not really understand how the police work.

I'm all ears...

[Hillbilly Popstar]

Years ago I owned my own car repair shop in a small town. well my helper was involved in some shady pot dealings with an undercover fed agent.
They sat outside my shop every day for about 2 months in a Kirby vacuum cleaner van. it was almost a joke I would even tell them hello from time to time as I walked by and they would quickly start up and drive away! lol
Well one evening at closing time I found myself spread eagle against a wall with an assault rifle to my head while they arrested my worker. they were in and out of there in less than 5 minutes!

long story short. they might be watchin you trying to build a case.

There's nothing to build, they have all the evidence they need if they want to take action.

Some of the guys in this thread must not really understand how the police work.

I'm all ears...

Just like stated earlier. If the cops come into your place and catch you with a garden of pot plants. They aren't gonna take pictures and leave so you have a chance to clean your act up. You're going down.

If they were that concerned, he'd already be in cuffs. They wouldn't have left, especially without confiscating contraband.

Now I'm not saying he should be stupid and keep doing what he's been doing.

I would put all my stuff in a storage unit for a while, or hide it in a trusted friends attic or storage shed and lay low for a few months-a year. Hell he's got plenty of hooch to wet his whistle in the meantime.

But some guys in this thread are acting like he's now America's most wanted. Like they will be running his house down with a tank tomorrow. That notion is assanine. Get your tinfoil hats gentleman, it's about to get hectic. In your mind.

[Hillbilly Popstar]

"Building a case" is when they don't have enough evidence to convict. They caught him red handed. They didn't care.

From the story, I gather they were documenting lots of things. They didn't just specifically target the still and likker and nothing else.

I may be wrong about that part though...

At any rate, he was never treated like a criminal.

[thecroweater]

"Building a case" is when they don't have enough evidence to convict. They caught him red handed. They didn't care.
From the story, I gather they were documenting lots of things. They didn't just specifically target the still and likker and nothing else. I may be wrong about that part though...At any rate, he was never treated like a criminal.

Not my business to say how things might go down state side but here they would be holding off to see if there are sales involved under these circumstances and if it was the case you could expect the ATO and federal police or customs to bring you crashing down otherwise you are just not worth the trouble

[Hillbilly Popstar]

"Building a case" is when they don't have enough evidence to convict. They caught him red handed. They didn't care.
From the story, I gather they were documenting lots of things. They didn't just specifically target the still and likker and nothing else. I may be wrong about that part though...At any rate, he was never treated like a criminal.

Not my business to say how things might go down state side but here they would be holding off to see if there are sales involved under these circumstances and if it was the case you could expect the ATO and federal police or customs to bring you crashing down otherwise you are just not worth the trouble

I agree. He should be watching for unmarked vehicles at the least.

Maybe they are tailing him....


At any rate, I wouldn't dump 40 gallons of hooch. I'd just hide it until I was sure no action was to be taken.


It funny that everyone thinks they will go to all these lengths to catch this guy after already having all the evidence they need. Yet everyone feels safe on this site, as if tracking any one of our IP addresses would not take less effort than anyone is suggesting the cops would be willing to put out in this case.

Think about it...

[HDNB]

Think about it...

They don't hire cops based on their MCAT scores...it's more about the ability to run toward gunshots instead of away. (more on that later)
They may not have even known what they were looking at, maybe thought it was decorative if they never saw the product. then they get back to the station and say "look at this" the boss smacks them on the backs of heads and sez "why didn't you pop him?" whaddya mean, personal is ok (see posts ^^^)
boss says it's federal you idiots..send them photos to the ATF.
sometimes they do move slow. my experience with any LEO is: if they can impose their will on another human for no matter how small of a slight...they will. if for no other reason than that.

The biggest thing you would have going for you in Canada is the descriptor used of "poor" the cops here are glorified (armed)tax collectors, and if you have the ability to pay...then pay you will. if you are poor, and get arrested for an offence like this it would cause paperwork and incarceration is expensive...so they avoid it at all costs. This crime would be demonstrative of alcoholism, which as a disease and a social ill it would be unconscionable to arrest somone for; they would be forced to provide mental health assistance and a wellness recovery program.
They also avoid "criminals" . Criminals are dangerous. This could cause a WCB claim, and is against safety protocol..So honestly, if you were a pack of gun toting thugs running speakeasys fuelled with illicit booze...you be snug as a bug in a rug.
It's the (disappearing) middle class that can afford a hefty fine or have their property seized and forfeited to the crown that have need to worry. The new world order of equalization is upon us boys.
i wish i was making this up.

cheers.

[goblin]

it has been a full week. i never sold any, never bartered any, never gave any away. true that they have the proof (100) and can enter my property. i do not care i have nothing i wish to hide.
i will take my lumps as they come.

i was shutting down anyway, i had no more glass JD or Evan Williams bottles to fill.

i have several years before i apply for my Social Security after that i will leave the big city, get me a trailer on some land in the country and build me a still shack.
until that happens i will not restart my still.

i agree if you have the assets $$$$$ the law will want it all

what is your plan, when the law comes.
one never knows, could be an act of God. a storm, fire, flood, tears up the neighbor hood exposing your stuff

i got lucky
thanks all for input

[thecroweater]

I feel for you, would kill me to loose my hobby

[Bushman]

I love my house but would probably move before giving it up!

[john2674]

yeah I agree that if all they were interested in was busting a still they would have acted right away. I was only warning about the possibility that if they do forward their pics to the feds , they would most likely watch you for quite a while before doing anything. just so they can get all the people involved. ie bootleggers, customers and such.
With that said personally I wouldn't dump out any of my product.. I would quietly yet expeditiously find a good hiding spot for it, preferably not on my property. then just go visit once in a while to collect a little bit for enjoyment.
As far as the still. SINK IT! lol.
Edit: Actually it might be better to convert as much of your still as possible into beer brewing equipment, and sink the rest. then if they did come you could argue " Still? whats a still? you mean my heated mash tun for me beer?"

[Antler24]

"Building a case" is when they don't have enough evidence to convict. They caught him red handed. They didn't care.
From the story, I gather they were documenting lots of things. They didn't just specifically target the still and likker and nothing else. I may be wrong about that part though...At any rate, he was never treated like a criminal.

Not my business to say how things might go down state side but here they would be holding off to see if there are sales involved under these circumstances and if it was the case you could expect the ATO and federal police or customs to bring you crashing down otherwise you are just not worth the trouble

I agree. He should be watching for unmarked vehicles at the least.

Maybe they are tailing him....


At any rate, I wouldn't dump 40 gallons of hooch. I'd just hide it until I was sure no action was to be taken.


It funny that everyone thinks they will go to all these lengths to catch this guy after already having all the evidence they need. Yet everyone feels safe on this site, as if tracking any one of our IP addresses would not take less effort than anyone is suggesting the cops would be willing to put out in this case.

Think about it...

The police gonna pounce on the 14yr old kid at a party with a gram of weed on him, or they gonna wait it out to catch the unemployed guy rollin by in an escalade with a pound of grass and 5k cash in the glove box?

They don't really have great evidence. Unless he's storing a shitload of it they don't have much. So the guys got a 15g Still and couple gallons put up. That's nothing more than personal consumption. With a good lawyer he's probably going to walk away with at most small fine. Now if he's got a half dozen fermenters full, there's 10 sacks of sugar and a 100 or so empty gallon jugs laying around and 20 gallons of booze sure he's gone get the book thrown at him.

If you ask me they've collected a little evidence. There going to sit on it. Wait for heavy traffic in the area. Keep an eye on him leaving the Costco or wholesale club. I wouldn't hide the still or move any of your drinking stock. If the still isn't being used and your stockpile isn't growing or disappearing they are gonna have a hard time pushing any serious charges, and ain't no cop around want to lose that battle.

[nerdybrewer]

I can personally attest that a policeman doesn't look very happy when a judge is calling him an asshole in open court.
Neither does a prosecuting attorney.
There are so many layers to the onion, just because there are some police out there who want to make you their bitch doesn't reflect on the whole system.

[HDNB]

I can personally attest that a policeman doesn't look very happy when a judge is calling him an asshole in open court. the truth hurts
Neither does a prosecuting attorney liar. even hurts professionals ((i corrected your spelling)(using the preferred phonetic spelling))
There are so many layers to the onion, just because there are whole police forces out there who want to make you their bitch doesn't reflect on some systems.(couple of your words got scrambled..fixed 'em right up for ya!)

sry..is my cynicism showing?