A little Still Decoration
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A little Still Decoration
I wanted to put a name or number on my still and was trying to figure out a way of doing that when I saw segment on How-its-Made on horse bit making and they soldered some decorative metal onto the bit to make it look fancy.
After seeing this I figured I could cut out some brass and solder it onto the column of my pot still. I came up with a very original name/number for the still 'No1' :>
So I played around with some fonts and numbers in a graphics program until I found one I liked and then enlarged it and printed it out. I dug up a old brass door push I had and sprayed glued the No1 onto it and then cut it out with my scroll saw. After getting the pieces cut out and arranged in order with some double sided tape I slightly bent them around some 1 1/2" pipe, I figured this would help fit the cut outs to my 2" diameter column with the spring back of the brass. I tinned the backs of the letters and then used hose clamps to place the lettering on the column. I then heated the brass with my torch until the solder melted, I felt and heard the hose clamps close a little which indicated to me that the solder was molten. After everything cooled a little I removed the clamps and checked out my decoration in the rough. After some cleaning and some painstaking solder removable (next time I will go a little lighter on the tinning) I got my decorative name/number :> Just need to make a case and I will call this still's construction done.
I think on my current project Ill get a bit more ambitious with the decor and maybe put some flames or vines around my sight glass fittings and of course a No2 :>
After seeing this I figured I could cut out some brass and solder it onto the column of my pot still. I came up with a very original name/number for the still 'No1' :>
So I played around with some fonts and numbers in a graphics program until I found one I liked and then enlarged it and printed it out. I dug up a old brass door push I had and sprayed glued the No1 onto it and then cut it out with my scroll saw. After getting the pieces cut out and arranged in order with some double sided tape I slightly bent them around some 1 1/2" pipe, I figured this would help fit the cut outs to my 2" diameter column with the spring back of the brass. I tinned the backs of the letters and then used hose clamps to place the lettering on the column. I then heated the brass with my torch until the solder melted, I felt and heard the hose clamps close a little which indicated to me that the solder was molten. After everything cooled a little I removed the clamps and checked out my decoration in the rough. After some cleaning and some painstaking solder removable (next time I will go a little lighter on the tinning) I got my decorative name/number :> Just need to make a case and I will call this still's construction done.
I think on my current project Ill get a bit more ambitious with the decor and maybe put some flames or vines around my sight glass fittings and of course a No2 :>
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Re: A little Still Decoration
that's beautiful!!
I have a neat trick for you in regards to the excess solder. Trace around the design with a carpenters pencil the solder will not stick where the pencil is...worth a try
I have a neat trick for you in regards to the excess solder. Trace around the design with a carpenters pencil the solder will not stick where the pencil is...worth a try
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That a great idea bellybuster :> Thanks!
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give'er a shot, I give no guarantee that it works, read it elsewhere
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I'm intrigued by the pointy sharpie stuff laying on your bench
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They are air hose connections that I use for my water in/out of my condenser and the other pointy thing is a attachment with 1/2" tri-clamp to the end of my condenser for the distillate to drip off into my parrot. Ill take some photos of the whole thing set up tomorrow while Im running it and post it here.
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I like that idea!!!! may have to try that myself.
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Have a look in to salt water etching, might give you some more ideas on decorating your still.
I had a go at it with a bit of scrap copper plate, used a bunch of household batterys chained together totalled about 18V, used a Q tip and some saturated salt solution, put 2 strips of masking tape on the plate about 3mm appart and cliped the positive terminal to the plate and the negative to the Q tip soaked in salt solution, then just rub it back and forwards without breathing the vapour, after a few minutes it was deep enough to feel with your nail, if you spent the time you could make it deeper, or if you increased the amps.
intrestingly this works really well on stainless steel but the fumes form this are really strong.
I had a go at it with a bit of scrap copper plate, used a bunch of household batterys chained together totalled about 18V, used a Q tip and some saturated salt solution, put 2 strips of masking tape on the plate about 3mm appart and cliped the positive terminal to the plate and the negative to the Q tip soaked in salt solution, then just rub it back and forwards without breathing the vapour, after a few minutes it was deep enough to feel with your nail, if you spent the time you could make it deeper, or if you increased the amps.
intrestingly this works really well on stainless steel but the fumes form this are really strong.
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Maybe you could avoid the solder problem by first heavily tinning the back of the brass before cutting it. Flux the area to be soldered. Then clamp the decoration as you have and heat the tube until the tinning melts.
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Re: A little Still Decoration
Very nice.
I like to see artistic stuff. I soldered a mudflap girl on my sexy girl flute.
When you want exact solder flow you can paint on kiln shelf primer. When I want to do really sweet stainless hard silver I paint on my flux, then paint on primer where I dont want solder, place my tinned part exactly where I want it and apply heat until it flows.
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When you want exact solder flow you can paint on kiln shelf primer. When I want to do really sweet stainless hard silver I paint on my flux, then paint on primer where I dont want solder, place my tinned part exactly where I want it and apply heat until it flows.
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Nice suggestions!
Ill definitely try the tinning first and then cutting, also the shelf primer and maybe even try my hand at some electro etching to put some shadow lines in.
Ive seen your sexy flute with the Mudflap girl, very nice, how did you cut them out?
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Ill definitely try the tinning first and then cutting, also the shelf primer and maybe even try my hand at some electro etching to put some shadow lines in.
Ive seen your sexy flute with the Mudflap girl, very nice, how did you cut them out?
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It was very light gauge brass that I had used to make a carb float for my antique car. I printed the image on a label, stuck it on and cut it out with scissors. When I soldered it on I used tinning flux that has solder in it.
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Here is the pot still 'No1' in action :>
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that looks awesome, Butterman!
This post got me to thinking, Since it's pretty hard to do any coloring on sheet copper with a torch precisely, I had to try out my electroplating. I tried silver today on a piece of copper tubing.
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I'm thinking you could do something REALLY cool with it.
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This post got me to thinking, Since it's pretty hard to do any coloring on sheet copper with a torch precisely, I had to try out my electroplating. I tried silver today on a piece of copper tubing.
![Image](http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h251/68MUDSTUD/IMG_20130211_165347_zps8820500b.jpg)
I'm thinking you could do something REALLY cool with it.
Sorry, not trying to hijack your thread.
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I like it!
So how did you do that so evenly? I see the painters tape (blue) and the even spacing between your stripes and it looks like the silver is very even, did you put on tape and then flux and solder? or did you really do some electroplating? making your copper a anode and your silver a catode and apply current or am I mixing those up?
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So how did you do that so evenly? I see the painters tape (blue) and the even spacing between your stripes and it looks like the silver is very even, did you put on tape and then flux and solder? or did you really do some electroplating? making your copper a anode and your silver a catode and apply current or am I mixing those up?
Share :>
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Yep, it's real electro plating, I got it as a kit from Texas Platers Supply a few years ago, after seeing their ad in "Shotgun News".
I use a universal charger, that you can change the voltage with a switch, plugged one end in, and clipped it to the tubing, plugged the other one in, and clipped it to my metal paint brush. I've found that 4.5V works best. There is a little piece of metal that goes over the bristles, that when you push the bristles to the workpiece, the bristles are also touching the steel, which makes it work.
yep, I just used masking tape to tape off the lines, then basically slowly and in circular motions painted the silver on.
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I think the trick to an even coating is HIGHLY polished brass. to the point you cant see 2000 grit scratches. buffer wheel.
Holler if you want pics of the equipment, I can run out into the shop and snap a few.
I use a universal charger, that you can change the voltage with a switch, plugged one end in, and clipped it to the tubing, plugged the other one in, and clipped it to my metal paint brush. I've found that 4.5V works best. There is a little piece of metal that goes over the bristles, that when you push the bristles to the workpiece, the bristles are also touching the steel, which makes it work.
yep, I just used masking tape to tape off the lines, then basically slowly and in circular motions painted the silver on.
![Image](http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h251/68MUDSTUD/IMG_20130211_165007_zps7b98b07d.jpg)
I think the trick to an even coating is HIGHLY polished brass. to the point you cant see 2000 grit scratches. buffer wheel.
Holler if you want pics of the equipment, I can run out into the shop and snap a few.
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68MUDSTUD, You got me thinking now, I have a vinyl plotter that can cut very precise shapes out of stick on vinyl.
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Send me all your coppers, I'll gladly plate them!
Yep, I hear ya, Richard! Now all i need is some copper to build my still, and a name for her, and maybe a logo of some kind. it would be super easy to just tape off the area you want plated, then trace your design onto the tape, and exacto-knife it out, and plate.
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Yep, I hear ya, Richard! Now all i need is some copper to build my still, and a name for her, and maybe a logo of some kind. it would be super easy to just tape off the area you want plated, then trace your design onto the tape, and exacto-knife it out, and plate.
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Definitely has me thinking about the complexity of my next decoration and I really appreciate all the great ideas :>
I think Ill be looking into the brush electroplating. I wonder how the plating stands up to a torch, like say I electroplated some brass or copper and then soldered it on the column or would I have to do the soldering first and then do the plating? What do you think 68MudStud, have you hit that plated copper with a torch?
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I think Ill be looking into the brush electroplating. I wonder how the plating stands up to a torch, like say I electroplated some brass or copper and then soldered it on the column or would I have to do the soldering first and then do the plating? What do you think 68MudStud, have you hit that plated copper with a torch?
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Good question. If I can find my solder I'll go out and try it!
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Definitely holds it's sheen!
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Thanks for doing that! That is really cool to see :>
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You bet, Butterman!RumRunner, I have read so much information on this site, I'm glad I could help others too!
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tried gold and nickel today, gold came out GREAT! Nickel wasn't bad either!
nickel:
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Gold:
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kinda hard to get a good pic of it.
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nickel:
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Gold:
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kinda hard to get a good pic of it.
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Looks great. Ive looked into electroplating and the kits you can buy.
Seem that the silver kit would be the best for me as then I could use some scrap silver I have to transfer onto the copper or brass.
But love your experimenting! keep it up :>
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Seem that the silver kit would be the best for me as then I could use some scrap silver I have to transfer onto the copper or brass.
But love your experimenting! keep it up :>
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Ten years ago I bought a kit and nickel plated using a six volt car battery and sulfuric acid for the electrolyte. It worked okay. It was said that battery chargers wouldn’t work because they did not have enough diodes and would not put out true DC. I forgot all about it until now.
Did you use silver nitrate for plating your copper? I have used it successfully on hot glass. It is used on mirroring plate glass. It might electro plate stainless too. I think you have to use soluable compounds for brush plating.
Did you use silver nitrate for plating your copper? I have used it successfully on hot glass. It is used on mirroring plate glass. It might electro plate stainless too. I think you have to use soluable compounds for brush plating.
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Ive seen some kits and videos were the brush that plugs into the negative terminal making it an anode and they then rap this brush in a cloth that is saturated in a solution of your liking' silver nitrate, chomium, etc. But the video also showed a person using some scrap silver and placing it under the cloth that was still saturated and the silver ions would dissolve from the scrap and transfer to the cathode or positively charged part.
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