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My Apple Press

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I wasn't planning on making this a new thread because I just didn't think there was all that much special about my new press but then I figured what the hell why not. So here are all the details so far.

Last year I pressed somewhere around 1,000 pounds of apples. In the process of doing this it became painfully apparent that my apple picking far outpaced my processing ability and I needed to step things up a notch or two. I began doing this by making an apple chopper ( http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... 50&t=62167 ) which gave me the ability to chop apples at a tremendous speed but I continued to use my little 3 gallon apple press. This little press has served me well over the years but it had now become the slowest and most difficult part of the operation. So I finally made the big decisions that I was going to build a new press.

I've looked at presses other people had built and felt fairly confident I could easily build one myself. To begin with I have quite an accumulation of 4x4s which I get for free and often use them for firewood, which is a shame, and a few 3x6 beams.. So I took a couple of these, got a rough idea of just how big I wanted this to be and set about cutting pieces to go together. I decided to notch the vertical supports to fit the horizontal pieces the place a beam over the top of them to reinforce it and hold the 4x4s in place. I wanted this thing to stand up to anything my 12 ton jack could throw at it so I doubled up the top 4x4s, the bottom one is a single 4x with the two 3x6 beams on either side of it.

So far so good, but then budget constraints came into play. Bolts don't really seem that expensive until you start needing lots of them. I wanted to use 1/2 inch but a 1/2" x 10" long carriage bolts are $2.35 each I figured I needed 14 to put this thing together and I just didn't have $32 just for the bolts. I did some calculating and figured 3/8" would work if I used a few more but still those cost $1.65 each, that would have been $23 but that was still too much. Then I realized I had a few pieces of 3/8" all-thread rod that was about the right length so I dug that out and decided that would work. I wound up buying 2 more rods and cutting them up to length at total a cost of about $12. Much better. A 25 pack of nuts was $5 and I think washers were $.13 each so that was another $2.34. Total cost for the frame about $20.
PRESS 25 JULY 16 #1 - C.JPG
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Now came the press part. Sometime over the winter I picked up a 4 gallon stainless steel pot at goodwill and drilled a bunch of holes in it to use as a press basket. Then I decided that I think that is also going to be too small so I set about in a different direction.

I still had some leftover oak flooring from when I redid our kitchen floor so I decided to put that to use as press plates. For the catch basin I went to Wal-Mart and looked around at what they had and settled on a big tote for, I think, $8. Now I could plan out the exact size of the plates.

The size of the plates came to 14x20 inches. I then set about cutting the oak into strips to make the plates. 2 long strips and approximately nineteen 14" strips.
PRESS 24 JULY 16 #1 - C.JPG
Then my cheap old crappy worn out garage sale saw finally gave out, leaving me with no saw. I did manage to get enough strips together to make one plate so I went to Lowe's and bought a box of stainless steel to put it together. This turned out to be the major expense of this whole thing. A box of stainless steel screws cost about $5 and it took an entire box to do just one plate.
Then I went and bought a new saw and started cutting the wood to make the plates

I wanted to do a total of 5 plates to begin with so that was would bring that whole thing to $25 just for screws. There had to be a cheaper way. So I looked around and found stainless steel deck screws for $15 for a box of 195. Not that much better but a little bit, so I bought that and started assembling press plates.
PRESS 24 JULY 16 #3 - C.JPG

The only problem was these screws were a little too long.
PRESS 24 JULY 16 #5 - C.JPG
The solution was to simply use a die grinder and cut off wheel to cut them off.
PRESS 24 JULY 16 #6 - C.JPG
So all that done, I now have 5 plates and a big press frame for around $48. That was actually a lot more than I had planned but it's still a lot less than most other options I could think of and really how much would 50 gallons of free range organic apple juice cost?
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I will be interested to see how those press plates work as with my press I think they would be crushed but maybe not. I use a 6 gallon SS fryer basket that already had the holes and line it with a 5 gallon paint strainer cloth.
Knowing you I have sure there will be a video and an honest evaluation on how it works! I really appreciate the way you share your ideas with the rest of the forum.
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Bushman wrote:I will be interested to see how those press plates work as with my press I think they would be crushed but maybe not. I use a 6 gallon SS fryer basket that already had the holes and line it with a 5 gallon paint strainer cloth.
Knowing you I have sure there will be a video and an honest evaluation on how it works! I really appreciate the way you share your ideas with the rest of the forum.
Thank you Bushman, yes I hope to get a video of it and updates if mods are needed. My original plan was to use the same method as you but I changed gears to go this method. At first I planned to have a full set of slats going each direction on the plates, which would have doubled the amount of wood, but I ran out of wood. I also have a fryer basket as well as the 4 gallon pot but they just seemed a little small, I may wind up switching them out at a later time. My idea with the plates is the bottom one actually has additional slats to support it on the bottom. This one will rest on the bottom of the tub. then a bag/cheese of apple pulp with a plate on top and another until I use all the plates stacked, I have these really nice old stainless steel cooking sheets and I think I am going to use one of those under the jack to help distribute the weight evenly. My theory is the plates wont collapse due to the cheese of pulp between them but we should find out today. I am about to get up and start setting up to do the chopping and pressing and see how the whole thing goes.
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cranky wrote:
Bushman wrote:I will be interested to see how those press plates work as with my press I think they would be crushed but maybe not. I use a 6 gallon SS fryer basket that already had the holes and line it with a 5 gallon paint strainer cloth.
Knowing you I have sure there will be a video and an honest evaluation on how it works! I really appreciate the way you share your ideas with the rest of the forum.
Thank you Bushman, yes I hope to get a video of it and updates if mods are needed. My original plan was to use the same method as you but I changed gears to go this method. At first I planned to have a full set of slats going each direction on the plates, which would have doubled the amount of wood, but I ran out of wood. I also have a fryer basket as well as the 4 gallon pot but they just seemed a little small, I may wind up switching them out at a later time. My idea with the plates is the bottom one actually has additional slats to support it on the bottom. This one will rest on the bottom of the tub. then a bag/cheese of apple pulp with a plate on top and another until I use all the plates stacked, I have these really nice old stainless steel cooking sheets and I think I am going to use one of those under the jack to help distribute the weight evenly. My theory is the plates wont collapse due to the cheese of pulp between them but we should find out today. I am about to get up and start setting up to do the chopping and pressing and see how the whole thing goes.
Your cookie sheets will work fine as racks but you might need something more substantial for a press plate.
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Wooday wrote: Your cookie sheets will work fine as racks but you might need something more substantial for a press plate.
I assume what you are calling cookie sheets is what I have been calling press plates. I have struggled a bit with what to call them because I think of them more as pallets than anything else but they do press down on the individual cheeses. This is actually what I think of as a cookie sheet.
Cookie sheet - C.JPG
Which is about 3 pounds of nice thick stainless steel and what I used for the top plate. Actually I used 2 of them double stacked.
I later swapped that out for a spare piece of 3x6 beam because my wife wasn't happy about me stealing her cookie sheets for a press plate :roll:
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I ran the press yesterday Everything went quite smoothly but I did struggle a bit trying to keep up with my wife running the chopper.
So now here are the pictures.
This first one is the first cheese loaded
PRESSING 26 JULY 16 #1 - C.JPG
I got a bunch of those small pillow cases for free and they work very well but I think the tight weave restricts my speed a bit so I may eventually have to go with something with a looser weave like a paint strainer bag or burlap or something like that. They do work pretty good though.

Here is everything all stacked up and ready to go.
PRESSING 26 JULY 16 #3 - C.JPG
That was 4 cheeses and 5 sets of pallets or cookie sheets or press plates, or whatever they are :crazy: and a double stacked set of cookie sheets under the jack.

Here it is in action
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The flow was actually quite a bit more than this but in the time it took to turn on the camera and take the picture it had slowed down some.

Now here is one of the 3x6 beam top press plate that replaced the cookie sheets, because my wife wasn't happy about me using them :roll:
PRESSING 26 JULY 16 #11 - C.JPG
This took up the space of one of the pallets and restricted me down to only 3 cheeses at a time. Which brings us to the flaws in my design. I should have made more room for the jack and I may go back and re-cut the vertical legs to do just that some day but it's not happening any time soon. The only other problem I had was that the 4x4 that the jack head rested against was too soft and the jack pressed into it. This was actually fixed by setting a piece of 3/4" thick plywood between the jack head and the upper cross beam but further restricted the overall height.

As far as how well it worked, I'm very happy with it. It made my whole operation much faster I'm not sure how well it compared to the little press, but I am thinking of reloading the spent cheeses in the little press and seeing just how much more I can press out of them that way, just to see. In reality I started pressing kind of late and by the time we got to the last of it it was dark so I wasn't being all that strict about how much I pressed. I put the cheeses away in a sealed container and am planning on giving them one more pressing in a little bit to see what else I can get out of them.

Now here is the short video my wife shot of me running the press

She actually enjoyed helping me out and running the chopper for me then sitting down with a bottle of wine and watching the juice flow out of the press.
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OK the total is in. 7ish buckets of apples pressed twice yielded 12 gallons of apple juice and compressed the pomace down to less than 2 buckets remaining. I don't feel the need to put whats left through the little press to see if I could get any more, there just isn't a whole hell of a lot left in this pomace. I'm very happy with this whole setup even though I could do a few things to improve it.
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Darn that's the cats meow!!
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bitter wrote:Darn that's the cats meow!!
Thank you Bitter :D

People might be wondering why I did a few things a little differently than a lot of people. Most people who make this style of press make a catch basin out of plywood but I worked very hard on these apples and don't want glue contaminating my apple juice. Then there is that the sides of the tote are rather high and actually interferes with using a long jack handle. Originally I was going to cut the sides off the tote and leave it only about 6 inches high but then I thought about how I am so short on containers to put apples in and that thing holds 4 bucketfuls. So I figure by leaving the the sides long I can use it to collect apples which will be the first apples to go through the chopper. Then I can move the tote to the press and press away. It also gives me a place to store the loose parts when not in use.
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I'm with you on the plywood! I'd love to get a press myself to make some apply rye... But my problem is to get the nice apple flavor, You need the heads.. than they kill my head. I guess if I put some in a barrel now would be darn good in 10+ years though.

Even more than that I really love a nice tart 5% -6% cider from granny smith apples!

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bitter wrote:I'm with you on the plywood! I'd love to get a press myself to make some apply rye... But my problem is to get the nice apple flavor, You need the heads.. than they kill my head. I guess if I put some in a barrel now would be darn good in 10+ years though.

Even more than that I really love a nice tart 5% -6% cider from granny smith apples!

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The apple flavor being in the heads is a problem. Cuts are hard and even harder on the flute. Last year I actually aged some of my brandy in a half gallon jar with the lid left loose on top of a heater vent which seamed to help it age quickly.

I do some of mine as cider, the early apples tend to be very acidic and sharp but they turn into very good cider after a year but it took a full year for it to come around. I've already done somewhere over 500 pounds of apples this year. I can't help myself, I like free booze and picking apples is the easiest way to get it.
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Those are beefy cookie sheets!
Your drip tray only needs to be maybe an inch tall. Cutting your tote down will give you some extra room to work.

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Wooday wrote:Those are beefy cookie sheets!
They are very beefy, believe it or not they are old airline serving trays from back in the day when they built things to last. Someone in Michigan was selling them for 10 cents each so I bought 10 but wound up leaving 7 behind when we moved because they were so heavy. They also have the name of the airline etched in it, in the picture you can almost make it out.
Wooday wrote:Your drip tray only needs to be maybe an inch tall. Cutting your tote down will give you some extra room to work.
I know but a one inch tall tray won't double as a way to hold 4 buckets of apples and storage in the off season :moresarcasm:
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Today I managed to get a piece of thick scrap stainless steel plate, so I cut it up into 3 pieces 4" wide.
PLATES #1 - C.JPG
Then stacked them and drilled them
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so they will give the jack something a lot more solid to press against which will prevent it from sinking into the wood.
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Note that's what in talking about!

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