Prepping

[Prairiepiss]

That's pretty much how we got where we are today in the first place.

Thank you. You can say that again.

[blind drunk]

I think the reaction/response will be country specific. We are socialized animals and every country/culture socializes its animals differently. What we believe in the first place will often determine an outcome. There are no universals in this regard. Something to keep in mind.

[theholymackerel]

The whole concept of waiting till something bad happens, and then grabbing yer rifle and "bug-out-bag" is an epic fail from the start.

Once the power goes out, it's already too late. The moment the power goes out you better already be where ya need to be. If the power stays off for a year and a half, or two or three years you better already be somewhere, with the supplies ya need.

No-one is gonna be able to travel safely, even decent sized groups are gonna be stuck because travel a choice only for the desperate... those that HAVE to relocate where food (hopefully) will be.

I live in a tiny village that used to be an agricultural village. There are fields, and orchards EVERYWHERE here laying fallow. Infact, I doubt there are enough people in my village to put all the fallow fields back into production. We could easily feed everyone here and produce much more food than we need. Transporting that food would be the problem.

Folks in urban areas will be screwed when the power goes out. Millions in every city will die from either starvation or violence. Folks in small towns will be in similar situations. Everyone thinks small towns are friendly and safe, but humans are foul when we get hungry. If that small town has enough livestock (horsepower to work the fields), and enough irrigation water that doesn't require pumping (remember no power), and enough fields to grow all the food required for everyone in the town, then starvation and violence might be able to be kept to a minamum. There also HAS to be enough wild food to feed everyone in the town till the first crop is in. Most small towns aren't gonna be able to fish and hunt enough food from within a few miles of town to take care of everyone.

Where I live the elk greatly outnumber humans. As do the mule deer the white-tails, the antelope, and the salmon and trout. When the power goes out, folks here aren't gonna starve.


Don't fool yerself that yer rifle, ammo, MRE's, and bug-out-bag are gonna save ya. When the power goes out the only folks that will have truly "prepped" are the folks that are already somewhere safe with plenty of food.

[rad14701]

Carrying along on the same theme as theholymackerel suggested...

One very important thing to consider is protein from meat... Even if farmers can continue to breed livestock for meat purposes those animals won't grow as large as fast as they would if they were provided with the fortified grains they are currently fed... That's a good thing in that they will be organically grown but a bad thing in that they will increase in weight at a slower rate... And then you have to consider the attrition from stealing by the unruly who only think about themselves...

And the same goes for planted crops... The ability to till the land will be reduced substantially if it requires manual labor rather than powered machinery... And there will also be the lack of added soil nutrients because fertilizers can't be manufactured in the quantities needed nor will they be able to be transported to farms or spread in the fields... And, again, then you have to consider the attrition from stealing by the unruly who only think about themselves...

Unfortunately, those who would be the quickest to pick up and use a gun are the ones who only want to insure that THEY have what they want or need... But what happens when that category of people has depleted everything and don't know shit about how to do anything themselves...??? The real concept is to convince people that everyone needs to work together if there is to be any real chance of survival and recovery...

[WV Shine]

+1 Rad and mackerel... I'm all for being prepared, and find apocalyptic scenarios fascinating (probably my favorite genre of movie)... I also bet the prepping crowd on HD is a bit more capable than the run of the mill crazies you see on TV... But, for the most part I agree with Rad and Mackerel: long term survival will take a lot more skills than most people posses, and the only chance for survival would be a small community that is cooperating and has adequate access to resources.

Cabin out in the middle of the woods by yourself with your gun is cool and all... but shit, what's the point

[Usge]

I'm guessing that if it was really bad enough you had to stay locked in that cellar/underground bunker for years....and you couldn't come out....you probably gonna need that ammo.....for yourself once you go stir crazy. You'd probably off yourself long before you ran out of food. Point being..unless you are packing food for "others" to use once you can safely get above ground ...you don't "that" much. You'll never make it that far anyway.

[rockchucker22]

I'm guessing that if it was really bad enough you had to stay locked in that cellar/underground bunker for years....and you couldn't come out....you probably gonna need that ammo.....for yourself once you go stir crazy. You'd probably off yourself long before you ran out of food. Point being..unless you are packing food for "others" to use once you can safely get above ground ...you don't "that" much. You'll never make it that far anyway.

I doubt I could live a week in a bunker! I need dirt,sun,trees....

[Prairiepiss]

I'm guessing that if it was really bad enough you had to stay locked in that cellar/underground bunker for years....and you couldn't come out....you probably gonna need that ammo.....for yourself once you go stir crazy. You'd probably off yourself long before you ran out of food. Point being..unless you are packing food for "others" to use once you can safely get above ground ...you don't "that" much. You'll never make it that far anyway.

I doubt I could live a week in a bunker! I need dirt,sun,trees....

There's no way I could pack away enough stuff to keep the fermenters and still going. I would have to find something else to occupy my time? What else is there?

[WV Shine]

[fullhouse]

, they will then call for the confiscation of your weapons as they would no longer be needed to provide food

Thinkin it wont be a good day for them

[HolyBear]

Hell, up er in tha mountains, em little blue hats would be good fer saterdaynight entertainment target practice.......

[RumBrewer]

I had to read the first four posts to figure out what the hell this was about!

I live on a farm. We are always prepared, and if not, we pay! We lose power in the dead of winter. We have the roads wash out in the summer and it can be a week before you get to town. It just happens.
We have issues with wild animals, crazy fucking loons off the highway, and the occasional "witness" that tries to knock on the door!
I had no idea that this was even a "Thing" that city people do. I had no idea that this was a "THING" at all.