Drinking Liquid Nitrogen

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A four-year-old story, but...
Is it REALLY necessary to tell folks not to drink Liquid Nitrogen? I guess it is.
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I recall the story, but I didn't know and can't hardly believe she got a settlement out of it.
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It's always nice to know that the civilization is being left in the capable hands of a younger generation.
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Fizz just look at it as putting a bit of chlorine in the Gene Pool
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My god..... stupid people.

Now we are going to have to ask for the MSDS sheet with each drink.
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jog666 wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:46 pm My god..... stupid people.

Now we are going to have to ask for the MSDS sheet with each drink.
Same group of retards doing the Tide pod and similar numbskullery....
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This from a guy named "Fizzix". :tired:

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cob wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:34 pm It's always nice to know that the civilization is being left in the capable hands of a younger generation.
I have great faith in the younger generation.
They have prior knowledge to build upon.
The only thing they lack is experience.
On a side note
The Bar tender and owners should have been prosecuted for a criminal offence.
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shadylane wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:10 pm
cob wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:34 pm It's always nice to know that the civilization is being left in the capable hands of a younger generation.
I have great faith in the younger generation.
They have prior knowledge to build upon.
The only thing they lack is experience.
On a side note
The Bar tender and owners should have been prosecuted in a criminal case.
Hear what you're saying Shady, but at the same time they haven't earned that knowledge. I'm pretty close in age to this most recent generation, and while there are certainly some bright people, the idiots are better enabled than ever.
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Expat wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:25 pm
Hear what you're saying Shady, but at the same time they haven't earned that knowledge.
I've already bought and paid for the knowledge
They get it for free.
What annoys the hell out of me, is people with experience
That are still stupid :lol:
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Old Man Darwin had it right
You can lead a horse to drink, but you cant make it water!
You can lead a horticulture but can you teach a prototype?

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This story floors me on a couple levels. How can someone not understand what liquid nitrogen will do to them?
More importantly how/why is the bar being so STUPID and NEGLIGENT in it's actions.

All I can say is that this bar is lucky it's in the UK and not the USA as it would not have been settled for such a low amount! She would have owned them.
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Teddysad wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:02 pm Old Man Darwin had it right
A buddy of mine says
"Warning labels are a violation of the law's of natural selection"
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shadylane wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:06 am
Teddysad wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:02 pm Old Man Darwin had it right
A buddy of mine says
"Warning labels are a violation of the law's of natural selection"
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shadylane wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:06 am
Teddysad wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:02 pm Old Man Darwin had it right
A buddy of mine says
"Warning labels are a violation of the law's of natural selection"
+1. Your buddy is wise!
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From a purely practical point of view I cannot see the slightest possibility that this could be true story !

Nitrogen BOILS at -220 C or -346 F !
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Pikey wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:33 am From a purely practical point of view I cannot see the slightest possibility that this could be true story !

Nitrogen BOILS at -220 C or -346 F !
Why? The liquid N2 would sit boiling in the glass for a period long enough for all of it to evaporate, but that time can be more than a minute. Plenty of time to do something stupid.
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Ok
- So how would you get it INTO the "glass" in the first place ?
What would happen when you took the top off the "Storage container" - to pour it ?
Where would you Store that container to prevent it exploding ?
Then
as you say the N2 sits BOILING in the glass - you may get some mug to drink something "smoking" but something "Boiling vigorously" ?
The glass would be so cold, it would have ICe instantly formed on it's outside and if you picked it up - your fingers would instantly freeze to it.
Similarly, it would stick to your lips if you tried to "drink" it.
If you waited for it to "steady down, you would be left with an empty glass
If you tried to "mix it" with anything - you'd simply have a block of super cold ICe
If you somehow managed to get it into your stomach, you would certainly explode as it gassified.

imho :wink:
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Large quantities are stored in pressurized stainless containers, but small quantities are stored in portable containers with loose fitting foam plugs so that the pressure doesn't build up like you mention. It doesn't boil immediately, nor does it freeze what it's put into immediately. I've made ice cream with it for kids where you stir while pouring liquid nitrogen into a bowl of cream, sugar, and vanilla. It takes a while to turn the bowl into mediocre ice cream and a lot of liquid nitrogen.

I believe that it would be possible to put some into a glass with other liquid and have it stick around long enough while bubbling gas out through that liquid for some drunk person to decide it made sense to down it.

One of my old teachers used to stick a 1" cube of bread into it to freeze it solid. Then he'd pull it out and hold it with his lips while blowing out through it to make an epic cloud of fog. Was fun, but the bosses eventually told him to knock it off.
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Pikey wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:48 am - So how would you get it INTO the "glass" in the first place ?
Pour it. Liquid nitrogen is so cold it has it’s own “insulation” with the evaporated nitrogen vapor surrounding the liquid. The “steam” creates an insulating layer believe it or not!
Pikey wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:48 am - What would happen when you took the top off the "Storage container" - to pour it ?
Where would you Store that container to prevent it exploding ?
A cryogenic storage vessel is called a “dewar”. A well insulated dewar will store liquid nitrogen for a long time. Again, the evaporated nitrogen helps hold the cold in as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryogenic_storage_dewar
Pikey wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:48 am - Similarly, it would stick to your lips if you tried to "drink" it...If you somehow managed to get it into your stomach, you would certainly explode as it gassified.
It would freeze the tissue it touched. You wouldn’t “feel” the damage because the nerves would be instantly frozen.

Have you ever seen the magic trick with a rose and a bowl of liquid N2? It instantly freezes the rose which then crumbles to dust upon a minor jolt or shake. The cells simply freeze solid and all life is extinguished in the rose...instantly.

If you were to drink it, it would destroy your mouth and esophagus within seconds. Not good for your health.

Always use extreme care when handling liquid nitrogen. While not “explosive” or “poisonous”, it is dangerous.
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Guessing you've never been around LN2 before, its a pretty common thing in some industries; i'll try to answer your questions.
Generally though, I think you're probably getting tripped up on the extreme temperature numbers. Remember the mass of the LN2 is typically very small.
Pikey wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:48 am - So how would you get it INTO the "glass" in the first place ?
With a ladle.
Pikey wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:48 am What would happen when you took the top off the "Storage container" - to pour it ?
Speaking from personal experience, the rate of evaporation would increase very slightly, otherwise nothing.
Pikey wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:48 am Where would you Store that container to prevent it exploding ?
The container is heavily insulated but not pressure sealed; its designed to allow slow release of evaporated N2.
Pikey wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:48 am Then
as you say the N2 sits BOILING in the glass - you may get some mug to drink something "smoking" but something "Boiling vigorously" ?
Drunk people....
Pikey wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:48 am The glass would be so cold, it would have ICe instantly formed on it's outside and if you picked it up - your fingers would instantly freeze to it.
Similarly, it would stick to your lips if you tried to "drink" it.
If you waited for it to "steady down, you would be left with an empty glass
Not instantly, it would depend on the thermal mass of the beverage it is applied to. Also, when heated the LN2 would create an N2 layer which would insulate it. Yes, if you let all the LN2 evaporate you'd have an empty glass, same as most beverages.
Pikey wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:48 am If you tried to "mix it" with anything - you'd simply have a block of super cold ICe
I doubt you could make these two liquids actually mix, more likely it would be stratified; even still it would take time for all the thermal energy to be pulled from the drink solution, AND it would require enough LN2 to cause that decrease in temp.
Pikey wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:48 am If you somehow managed to get it into your stomach, you would certainly explode as it gassified.
Or you know, just burp... which is more typical for having gas pressure in your stomach.
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The headline is rather misleading. She was not served a shot of liquid nitrogen, she was served a cocktail that had a small amount of liquid nitrogen added to create a steamy or smoky effect. You are supposed to wait a while before drinking it, to allow the nitrogen to boil off, but the bar that served it to her apparently said it was safe to drink right away.
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I’ve had ice cream made with nitrogen before. It made nice big ice crystals in the cream. And the creamery was nice and cool on a very hot and humid summer day. But I certainly didn’t eat any liquid nitrogen. It all vaporized as the cream was freezing.
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Pikey wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:33 am From a purely practical point of view I cannot see the slightest possibility that this could be true story !

Nitrogen BOILS at -220 C or -346 F !
It is common. Accidents are also fairly common.

People in North India hire these bartenders for parties.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/fitness/ ... xxt5N.html
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One local place seems to use a liquid nitrogen device to quickly chill glasses when making cocktails “up”. It’s loud and surprising to hear it coming from the bar when you’re eating.
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I used to be a science teacher and still have a good sized dewar. Liquid nitrogen pours easily, no problem putting it in a cup. We used to have all sorts of fun with it, shrinking a full balloon to nothing and then back to full again, making columns of frozen bubbles. All sorts of nonsense. And not one kid ever asked if we could drink it. Duh!
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I work maintenance at a hospital, we got liquid oxygen a couple times a week. To see liquid oxygen on the concrete was common, slightly blue, liquid beads that did not flash to vapor very fast. Neat stuff.
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If someone needs to be told to not do this, I wouldnt tell them, i would wanna see how high they get on the Darwin Awards list, , , ,
  
 
 
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Ok - I stand corrected !

Thanks for educating me lads ! 8)
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