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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by Bushman » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:28 am

Soft batch wrote:Bushman: I have a stainless garbage disposal scratcher. I've ground apples for at least 15 minutes (a full 5 gal bucket) straight without any overheating problems. I did have to quarter the large apples as they tended to bounce around if they were round. I also use a push stick to keep cramming them in.
Good to hear, I have no direct experience just reviews I have read on the internet when researching. I believe a lot of it has to do with the grade of disposal you purchase or have as I have seen the price range really fluctuate and you can spend a considerable amount for a good disposal.

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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by Jimbo » Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:15 pm

Soggy, I have a stainless disposal mounted in a small sibk and built into a stand. I built it after getting tired of slicing apples and pears up dmall and stuffing them in a champion juicer (for years). The disposal never worked well. PITA it was. You can have it if you live around me. Ive since built tge scratter and press in my sig and it works beautifully.
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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by Soggy Bottom Boy » Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:16 pm

Freight from Iceland would kill it! :wink:

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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by kurgan » Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:04 am

Bushman, I just bought everything to duplicate your setup. Any tips on how the green chute comes off the chipper? Did you ever mod yours to chew whole apples?

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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by Bushman » Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:47 am

kurgan wrote:Bushman, I just bought everything to duplicate your setup. Any tips on how the green chute comes off the chipper? Did you ever mod yours to chew whole apples?
The green chute takes a little work, to get to the screws that are set back in you need to remove the whole top section then remove the chute then reassemble to top. I have not yet modified my top as it is out on the island and haven't been out there in a while. I think it can be rebuilt to take whole apples as the chipper is easily strong enough to handle it. I still quarter the large apples and half the small.

Make sure you buy the paint strainer bags to go over the bucket. I am not sure I mentioned it but I also used clamps with plywood to clamp to the base to hold the plastic drain tray so it would not get damaged.

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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by kurgan » Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:27 pm

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kurgan wrote:Bushman, I just bought everything to duplicate your setup. Any tips on how the green chute comes off the chipper? Did you ever mod yours to chew whole apples?
The green chute takes a little work, to get to the screws that are set back in you need to remove the whole top section then remove the chute then reassemble to top. I have not yet modified my top as it is out on the island and haven't been out there in a while. I think it can be rebuilt to take whole apples as the chipper is easily strong enough to handle it. I still quarter the large apples and half the small.

Make sure you buy the paint strainer bags to go over the bucket. I am not sure I mentioned it but I also used clamps with plywood to clamp to the base to hold the plastic drain tray so it would not get damaged.
Glad to know I was on the right track. I had started removing the top section, but wanted to get confirmation before tearing into it too far. After looking it over, I think that metal piece above the blades would need a new custom piece with a deeper "curve" then cut/mold the plastic to match the curve. I say that because it looks like the metal piece adds some structural integrity and aides in keeping everything from falling straight out the outlet. I guess if you could cut part of the old chute away and mold a piece in its place with some rigid enough plastic or some thin stainless that went all the way down to within millimeters of the bottom blade, that might work.

i keep plenty of those paint strainers around, them things are too dern handy not to have in this hobby ;-)

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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by Bushman » Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:07 pm

Great I won't get back to any modifications till next spring so keep good records and take pictures to share! :thumbup:

PS: Add your modifications to this thread to make it easier for others that want to follow our design.

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Re: Apples!

Post by kurgan » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:02 pm

I've been studying my Chicago electric chipper/grinder and comparing it to the "Selections Electric Apple Scratter" here, and i'm thinking a 4" piece of pvc modded to replace the chute might work. With 20 bushels of apples to process, i'm scared to start hacking on it till after this job is done.
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Re: Apples!

Post by kurgan » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:55 pm

I'm sad to report that the turkey fryer baskets from amazon do not hold up to me and the 20 ton press. I'm trying to get through this to the end, taking longer than expected. If I ever do this again, I think a wood slat basket would hold up better.
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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by Bushman » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:53 pm

Should be no pressure on the turkey fryer basket, is your circle that you cut to press evenly slightly smaller than the basket? I bought my fryer at a garage sale but am thinking it is the same one.

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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by Tokoroa_Shiner » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:09 pm

Bushman wrote:Should be no pressure on the turkey fryer basket, is your circle that you cut to press evenly slightly smaller than the basket? I bought my fryer at a garage sale but am thinking it is the same one.

Wouldn't the apple press outwards once the pressing starts?
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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by cranky » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:13 pm

Is that fryer basket the aluminum one or stainless? It looks like aluminum in the picture. Now I'm thinking maybe I won't buy one and will just make one out of that oak I've been thinking about using to make a cutting board for the new kitchen instead.

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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by kurgan » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:20 pm

Bushman wrote:Should be no pressure on the turkey fryer basket, is your circle that you cut to press evenly slightly smaller than the basket? I bought my fryer at a garage sale but am thinking it is the same one.
The circle is smaller, and will drop in and out of the basket with ease when empty. When you get down the bottom, and pressing real hard, the "cheese" tries to push outward and cracked the aluminum.

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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by kurgan » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:21 pm

cranky wrote:Is that fryer basket the aluminum one or stainless? It looks like aluminum in the picture. Now I'm thinking maybe I won't buy one and will just make one out of that oak I've been thinking about using to make a cutting board for the new kitchen instead.
I'd use the oak, just my .02

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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by cranky » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:27 pm

kurgan wrote: I'd use the oak, just my .02
I keep going back and forth on that. On one hand the wife could really use a new cutting board and on the other a better apple press would sure be nice but I have about 8 more months to next apple season to decide between the fryer basket and the oak and can probably come up with more oak if I keep an eye out.

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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by Bushman » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:35 pm

kurgan wrote:
Bushman wrote:Should be no pressure on the turkey fryer basket, is your circle that you cut to press evenly slightly smaller than the basket? I bought my fryer at a garage sale but am thinking it is the same one.
The circle is smaller, and will drop in and out of the basket with ease when empty. When you get down the bottom, and pressing real hard, the "cheese" tries to push outward and cracked the aluminum.
Hmm, my basket is Stainless Steel. I stop pressing when the cheese cloth begins poking through the holes.

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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by kurgan » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:36 pm

cranky I'd use the oak if it were me. I found somebody on ebay selling baskets for $49.95 with oak slats and stainless bands, that's doable if somebody was in a real pinch. I just hope this all holds together for 6 more bushels :(

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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by kurgan » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:38 pm

Bushman wrote:
kurgan wrote:
Bushman wrote:Should be no pressure on the turkey fryer basket, is your circle that you cut to press evenly slightly smaller than the basket? I bought my fryer at a garage sale but am thinking it is the same one.
The circle is smaller, and will drop in and out of the basket with ease when empty. When you get down the bottom, and pressing real hard, the "cheese" tries to push outward and cracked the aluminum.
Hmm, my basket is Stainless Steel. I stop pressing when the cheese cloth begins poking through the holes.
Stainless sounds like the key here. The aluminum is pretty thin, i'll try to measure it, but it obviously isn't thick enough.

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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by Bushman » Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:20 pm

I've seen on searches people have made them out of plastic 5 gallon buckets, holes drilled through and it was supported with multiple large zip ties for support.

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Post by cranky » Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:30 pm

Bushman wrote:I've seen on searches people have made them out of plastic 5 gallon buckets, holes drilled through and it was supported with multiple large zip ties for support.
I've seen that too and had been looking at the ones on amazon. I work with aluminum a lot and didn't think spun aluminum would work and was going to go with the stainless one but I have access to titanium and possibly some stainless sheet metal so In the interest of my budget constraints and the new $100 Home Depot card I just got I might go see how much enough new oak strips will cost and the wife can have the antique oak for the cutting board.

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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by kurgan » Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:50 am

Just read back through Jimbo's apple stuff, and see at some point he switched to a 5 gallon stainless pot with holes drilled in it. Just another option.

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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by thumper123 » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:03 am

My new $7.00 apple grinder. I had some junk lumber and an old motor laying around, but I had to buy a belt. Works great.


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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by Jimbo » Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:24 pm

Outstanding thumper :clap: :thumbup: Any pictures of the business end? How did you do the scratter wheel? I dont think youll need the ramrod, in mine the apples get chewed up and spit through by gravity just fine. Do you have a blocker plate on the upside above the scratter wheel? without that youll have apple bits flying upwards making a hell of a mess (dont ask me how I know).
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Post by thumper123 » Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:38 pm

I got pictures. I just learned how to post them - God help you all.

I made a drum by glueing up some junk oak, turning it on my 1954 Shopsmith, and then screwing 1" drywall screws into the drum at a leading angle so that the heads of the screws will bite into the apple. The masher is limited in travel to just miss the action. My biggest problem was slowing things down a bit, hence the big plywood pulley. I cut the V groove in that on the Shopsmith as well. Before I made this I was grinding my apples in a food processor - a slow operation as anyone who has tried it knows.

I can't take credit for the concept, however. I saw a picture on the net of one along with plans galore. I just winged it, and amazingly after a little experimentation it worked.

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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by Jimbo » Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:23 pm

nice work, youre gonna want to put a blocker plate above the wheel, on the side where the wheel spins upwards. trust me.

Here's pics of mine showing this plate Im talking about. I did the same thing with screws, only I used stainless steel screws. http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... 0#p7018787
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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by thumper123 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:47 am

Wow, Rad, that was some rant!

I get my information from Forum Rules, Notifications and Helpful Hints, Posting Pics by Tater, and guess what? It actually works unlike all the other BS I've read. My suggestion to you is that if opening Photobucket is too scary for you - don't.

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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by thumper123 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:53 am

Jimbo, I will put that deflector plate on the grinder - in the form of a pulley guard as well. The more I look at that spinning wheel the more scared I get! Thanks for the tip.

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Re: Multi use apple press/grinder

Post by Bushman » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:09 am

Looks nice, how deep is the hopper? Full apples really bounce when first added so a cover to knock them back down is a good idea. I like Jimbo's suggestion.

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