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I'm looking at this thing, it has about a 110 gallon capacity.
What I'm thinking is maybe if I scooped in my grain mash it would strain out the liquid and I could hook up to it with a lift and let the liquid pour through.
Anyone see anything like this before / use anything like this?
Would there be a better use for a piece of SS equipment like this?
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nerdybrewer wrote:I'm looking at this thing, it has about a 110 gallon capacity.
Would there be a better use for a piece of SS equipment like this?
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Looks like it would be good for any large straining task.
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I see nothing wrong with it if you can score it for few $ . Brand new retail $ would probably make me quite a bit hesitant .
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Truckinbutch wrote:I see nothing wrong with it if you can score it for few $ . Brand new retail $ would probably make me quite a bit hesitant .
I can find it listed new for $600.
There's a guy selling one for $100 - so I am interested but wondering how well it will work specifically for corn meal, wheat & oats along with of course malted barley.
From what I read that's what it's made for, so I'm pretty sure I want it.
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Hate this say it, but I think corn will clog it up. It looks awesome though. If you could keep the grain in it for a big mash, and lower it in/out of a 55 gallon size barrel it would be sweet. For 600$ though you could buy 10-12 big brew-in-a-bag's.
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Brutal wrote:Hate this say it, but I think corn will clog it up. It looks awesome though. If you could keep the grain in it for a big mash, and lower it in/out of a 55 gallon size barrel it would be sweet. For 600$ though you could buy 10-12 big brew-in-a-bag's.
True but I figure if I get it for $100 or less it would be awesome.
My current mashing plans only include about 50% corn and plenty of wheat & oat & barley and that seems to help with the straining.
Here's the website selling them for $599:

http://conical-fermenter.com/145-Gallon ... asket.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
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I say go for it if you can get it for $100 or less. I'd make a bag for it for corn or go bigger on the corn than corn meal. Put a plate on top of the grains and drop some weights on it and you'll get all the goodness out of it.
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Snackson wrote:I say go for it if you can get it for $100 or less. I'd make a bag for it for corn or go bigger on the corn than corn meal. Put a plate on top of the grains and drop some weights on it and you'll get all the goodness out of it.
I pulled the trigger.
Figure if it doesn't work for me I'll put it up for sale.
But I think it will work great, the underlayment material also works but is slow and like you said I can make a bag out of that stuff or even a liner for the sieve might work.
Ideally this will make doing all grain a lot easier, which will result in me doing a lot more of it.
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nerdybrewer wrote:
Snackson wrote:I say go for it if you can get it for $100 or less. I'd make a bag for it for corn or go bigger on the corn than corn meal. Put a plate on top of the grains and drop some weights on it and you'll get all the goodness out of it.
I pulled the trigger.
Figure if it doesn't work for me I'll put it up for sale.
But I think it will work great, the underlayment material also works but is slow and like you said I can make a bag out of that stuff or even a liner for the sieve might work.
Ideally this will make doing all grain a lot easier, which will result in me doing a lot more of it.
I downgraded my 3 vessel eHerms to a 15.5 Bayou Classic BIAB. I use a BIAB bag inside the strainer basket that came with it and it works great. The basket is there for the rigidity and makes it a lot easier to drain.
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Snackson wrote:
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Snackson wrote:I say go for it if you can get it for $100 or less. I'd make a bag for it for corn or go bigger on the corn than corn meal. Put a plate on top of the grains and drop some weights on it and you'll get all the goodness out of it.
I pulled the trigger.
Figure if it doesn't work for me I'll put it up for sale.
But I think it will work great, the underlayment material also works but is slow and like you said I can make a bag out of that stuff or even a liner for the sieve might work.
Ideally this will make doing all grain a lot easier, which will result in me doing a lot more of it.
I downgraded my 3 vessel eHerms to a 15.5 Bayou Classic BIAB. I use a BIAB bag inside the strainer basket that came with it and it works great. The basket is there for the rigidity and makes it a lot easier to drain.
Where can I get a brew in a bag type bag that's at least 5' tall and 20" diameter?
That would be sweet!
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I remember someone posted a link for custom made ones here bout 8 months ago if I remember correctly... Wasn't terribly expensive either
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I just got there biggest on for my mash pot getting ready to embark on the all grain route my self . seems like a well built bag has lifting straps built into the bag. I have not used it yet though.

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nerdybrewer wrote:
Snackson wrote:
nerdybrewer wrote:
Snackson wrote:I say go for it if you can get it for $100 or less. I'd make a bag for it for corn or go bigger on the corn than corn meal. Put a plate on top of the grains and drop some weights on it and you'll get all the goodness out of it.
I pulled the trigger.
Figure if it doesn't work for me I'll put it up for sale.
But I think it will work great, the underlayment material also works but is slow and like you said I can make a bag out of that stuff or even a liner for the sieve might work.
Ideally this will make doing all grain a lot easier, which will result in me doing a lot more of it.
I downgraded my 3 vessel eHerms to a 15.5 Bayou Classic BIAB. I use a BIAB bag inside the strainer basket that came with it and it works great. The basket is there for the rigidity and makes it a lot easier to drain.
Where can I get a brew in a bag type bag that's at least 5' tall and 20" diameter?
That would be sweet!
PM randymarshct,

he had one made for his set up . used a pulley system from his garage rafters to strain. says it works really well and will hold a lot of weight from the grains and mash water no problem
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Talked with Michael at http://biabbags.webs.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
He will sell me the 145 gallon bag for $57 shipped.
I realize it can be used many times but still wouldn't mind paying less if someone has a good one for a better price! ;)
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nerdybrewer wrote:Talked with Michael at http://biabbags.webs.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
He will sell me the 145 gallon bag for $57 shipped.
I realize it can be used many times but still wouldn't mind paying less if someone has a good one for a better price! ;)
You could make one yourself if you have a sewing machine. I think I paid $37 shipped for one that will fit my 32 gallon Brute.
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I've thought about it a while and decided I'll try the big assed sieve by itself before I buy anything else.
If it clogs up and won't pass liquid out of the grain then I'll get or make a BIAB to fit it.
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Thinking that would be great for dissolving panela - pour the sugar in and use your pump to do a hot water pump over. The sieve should keep the larger undissolved chunks out of your pump. I used my way too small gin basket to do the same with my last batch, bit of a pain scooping in small amounts but I did get the sugar 100% dissolved easier than stirrin. - Kind of like a Panelomatic.

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Oldvine Zin wrote:Thinking that would be great for dissolving panela - pour the sugar in and use your pump to do a hot water pump over. The sieve should keep the larger undissolved chunks out of your pump. I used my way too small gin basket to do the same with my last batch, bit of a pain scooping in small amounts but I did get the sugar 100% dissolved easier than stirrin. - Kind of like a Panelomatic.

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http://www.norcalbrewingsolutions.com/c ... a4c130eeab" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
This (in drill) + hot dunder + panela= Easy Peasy!
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Snackson wrote: http://www.norcalbrewingsolutions.com/c ... a4c130eeab" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
This (in drill) + hot dunder + panela= Easy Peasy!
Been there and done that - fine for small ferments, when you get into the 60 gal+ range the drill motor is a pita, pump-overs are really easy and not as loud.

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Oldvine Zin wrote:Thinking that would be great for dissolving panela - pour the sugar in and use your pump to do a hot water pump over. The sieve should keep the larger undissolved chunks out of your pump. I used my way too small gin basket to do the same with my last batch, bit of a pain scooping in small amounts but I did get the sugar 100% dissolved easier than stirrin. - Kind of like a Panelomatic.

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I just add around 15 - 18 gallons water to my 25 gallon brewpot and bring it up to about 190 and then pour in 50 Lbs Panela.
Stirring isn't a big problem, way easier than 50 Lbs of corn!!!
My submersible pump doesn't seem to have any trouble even with hot wash, I generally bring the temp down to about 125F than pump it into the fermenter.
With a 3/4" ID hose it doesn't take long to pump 25 gallons.
I never have any undissolved bits.

No my intent with the big sieve is to run AG through it.
I'm not sure yet just how I will do it, I don't have anything I'm aware of that I can use to lift a full column of grain out of any kind of vessel but I'll have to figure that part out.
If I had a low side wall / wide container that it could sit in and drain then I could easily connect up to it with an engine hoist and lift it / move it around.
At first I thought I could put it in the big fermenter I use but lifting it out would require something above 8 feet (fermenter 4' tall plus sieve @ 4' tall = 8').
Sometimes the math just smacks you up side the head like that.
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http://m.harborfreight.com/440-lb-elect ... 60346.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

That might work for $100
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Snackson wrote:http://m.harborfreight.com/440-lb-elect ... 60346.html

That might work for $100
The roof of my shed wouldn't take a load, think more "tent" and less "garage".
It's a Shelterlogic 12'x25' shed.
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Sounds like you're going to have another project in building a structure that will hold a hoist for you!
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Tripod hoist stand

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Oldvine Zin wrote:Tripod hoist stand

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I do have a mig, I could find some steel.
Or I could use three 4x4's and bolts, easier to take apart and store.
Now we're thinking with gas!
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Just a thought you don't need to be completely above the barrel when you lift. Just above the drained wash line. His would be very easy to do if you add a tap into the barrel so you can draw off wash into day a 5 gallon bucket.
Then when your drained of wash simply tilt barrel and pull away. Then put your receiving container user the strainer and empty into it. Easy to transport spent grains very little clean up.

Just a simple thought.
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