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Outdoor burner that can run on house low pressure propane

Postby mass thumper » Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:55 pm

I have been on this quest for ever. I got a King Kooker model 86PKT to run my 2 beer keg thumper and it does well. I ran pipe and shut off valves to an old propane outdoor cooker regulator to an OPD fitting to run. Long and the short it didn't work, flame was less than a candle. I then ordered the low pressure 3 ring version heater conversion and it could not heat butter in July. Is there any outdoor cooker capable of boiling a standard Keg using the low pressure from the house. Not sure what in water column inches our propane is regulated to but it is for our kitchen stove dryer and boiler
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Re: Outdoor burner that can run on house low pressure propan

Postby RedwoodHillBilly » Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:07 pm

mass thumper wrote:I have been on this quest for ever. I got a King Kooker model 86PKT to run my 2 beer keg thumper and it does well. I ran pipe and shut off valves to an old propane outdoor cooker regulator to an OPD fitting to run. Long and the short it didn't work, flame was less than a candle. I then ordered the low pressure 3 ring version heater conversion and it could not heat butter in July. Is there any outdoor cooker capable of boiling a standard Keg using the low pressure from the house. Not sure what in water column inches our propane is regulated to but it is for our kitchen stove dryer and boiler


Should be regulated to 10.5 - 11 inches H2O i.e. roughly 1/2 psi. Depending on how efficient your setup is (boiler insulation, flame containment, etc) you may get away with it. I tried it when I first started, but found electric to be an easier setup, although it is probably more expensive. YMMV.
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Re: Outdoor burner that can run on house low pressure propan

Postby shadylane » Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:53 pm

I'm confused as normal :lol:
What is "house low pressure propane"
Do you mean there's a propane tank in the yard :?:
Or is the gas piped to the house :?:
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Re: Outdoor burner that can run on house low pressure propan

Postby RedwoodHillBilly » Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:05 pm

shadylane wrote:I'm confused as normal :lol:
What is "house low pressure propane"
Do you mean there's a propane tank in the yard :?:
Or is the gas piped to the house :?:


Either way, the normal pressure is regulated to 10.5 in H2O. I run my house on propane and that is what I set my regulator to.
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Re: Outdoor burner that can run on house low pressure propan

Postby skow69 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:16 pm

Is the OP talking about natural gas perhaps?
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Re: Outdoor burner that can run on house low pressure propan

Postby yakattack » Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:35 pm

skow69 wrote:Is the OP talking about natural gas perhaps?



That was my thought too skow. Op. If you're trying to use a propane burner with natural gas it won't work. You need a different type of regulator and different orifices.
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Re: Outdoor burner that can run on house low pressure propan

Postby Badmotivator » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:44 pm

yakattack wrote:
skow69 wrote:Is the OP talking about natural gas perhaps?



That was my thought too skow. Op. If you're trying to use a propane burner with natural gas it won't work. You need a different type of regulator and different orifices.
...and if it's the case that he has low-pressure natural gas, then he's in like Flynn. I just put together an outdoor burner and stand for brewing beer using an existing LPNG line, and it freaking roars. It'll boil 8 gallons in roughly 1/2 hour. The 23-jet natural gas burner ring was around $30 on amazon. (Much more when you include hose, ball valve, and stand materials of course.)
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Re: Outdoor burner that can run on house low pressure propan

Postby mass thumper » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:21 pm

I have propane not natural gas in the house unfortunatly. I got a low pressure burner from King Kooker and it just looked like candles lit up with the propane line from the house. Would a low pressure regulator allow a greater volume of gas? The regulator I am using is from an old turkey fryer that ran off of 20 lb tanks.

Badmotivator wrote:
yakattack wrote:
skow69 wrote:Is the OP talking about natural gas perhaps?



That was my thought too skow. Op. If you're trying to use a propane burner with natural gas it won't work. You need a different type of regulator and different orifices.
...and if it's the case that he has low-pressure natural gas, then he's in like Flynn. I just put together an outdoor burner and stand for brewing beer using an existing LPNG line, and it freaking roars. It'll boil 8 gallons in roughly 1/2 hour. The 23-jet natural gas burner ring was around $30 on amazon. (Much more when you include hose, ball valve, and stand materials of course.)


Just wondering what burner you have with the 23 jets?
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Re: Outdoor burner that can run on house low pressure propan

Postby cob » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:45 pm

mass thumper wrote: I ran pipe and shut off valves to an old propane outdoor cooker regulator to an OPD fitting to run. Long and the short it didn't work
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this statement leads me to think you have over regulated your supply.

as stated twice by redwood hillbilly 10.5 IWC is standard propane appliance

operating pressure, and if you had that your burner would work.

propane home instillation involves these pieces.

1. a tank that carries tank pressure that varies according to ambient temperature.

2. a high pressure regulator at the tank

3. a low pressure regulator that is either attached to the high pressure regulator

at the tank, (dual stage) or attached to the house and connected to the high pressure regulator

with a supply line. the pressure after the second regulator will be 10.5~ and will run appliances.

4. distribution pipe that supplies appliances with 10.5 IWC propane. no further regulation

of pressure is needed.

it appears you have added a third regulator to a 10.5 IWC. supply line. if that is what you did

regulator #3 is designed to regulate tank pressure down to 10.5 IWC in one stage.

check your supply from your tank to see if you have 3 regulators installed instead of 2 .

please triple check any work you do with any flammable gas
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Re: Outdoor burner that can run on house low pressure propan

Postby Badmotivator » Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:05 am

mass thumper wrote:
Just wondering what burner you have with the 23 jets?


Search "23-jet natural gas burner" and you will find tons of offers. For example: https://www.amazon.com/Commercial-Use-T ... B008HTCMSY
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Re: Outdoor burner that can run on house low pressure propan

Postby RedwoodHillBilly » Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:39 pm

Badmotivator wrote:
mass thumper wrote:
Just wondering what burner you have with the 23 jets?


Search "23-jet natural gas burner" and you will find tons of offers. For example: https://www.amazon.com/Commercial-Use-T ... B008HTCMSY


Or perhaps this one for propane since the OP is using propane instead of natural gas (methane).

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016NA3XAO/re ... B008HTCMSY
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Re: Outdoor burner that can run on house low pressure propan

Postby Aussiedownunder01 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:27 pm

Those burners are good for high heat but you cant turn them down to a low heat like a 4 ring burner you can drop them a bit then the flames start to carbon up
I have one sitting in the useless pile in the shed
A Rambo wok burner is a better deal
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