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Re: mason jar lids

Postby raketemensch » Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:36 am

yakattack wrote:Oak lids for the mason jars are a decent idea. And had been done but if your making enough that your considering this why not make some badmo barrels. Easy to do, cheap and work a treat apparently. Just my 2 cents mind you.


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I've not really done much joining, and my cuts are so bad that I'd be leaking everywhere. Know thy limits :]

But lids could be made with a holesaw, and honestly, I'm thinking they might make a decent product to sell.

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Tell that to my wife :] "Why is this cabinet overflowing?"

I keep everything in a cabinet above the oven so that it gets heating/cooling cycles, but it's almost full now. I'm gonna need a new solution.
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Re: mason jar lids

Postby cranky » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:21 am

raketemensch wrote:But lids could be made with a holesaw, and honestly, I'm thinking they might make a decent product to sell.

That's what Corene1 did I think she used 2 different size hole saws one to make the thinner part that sits on the rim and another for the larger outer cut.

raketemensch wrote:I keep everything in a cabinet above the oven so that it gets heating/cooling cycles, but it's almost full now. I'm gonna need a new solution.

I'm in the same place, I just cleaned out one of my booze cabinets and moved everything to my booze shelf in the closet, now I'm looking at that shelf and wondering if the screws I used to mount the brackets are good enough to hold all that weight. :problem:
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Re: mason jar lids

Postby pfshine » Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:03 pm

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Re: mason jar lids

Postby corene1 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:31 pm

There is a bit of the description of the lids I make earlier in this thread , this is the original thread and there is some good discussion in it about various types of lid seals, viewtopic.php?f=4&t=44034
My final lids are made of 1/2 inch thick white oak toasted to 350 then the final shaping is done. I use a lathe to cut the lip but I don't see why you couldn't use a router and a hole saw. The 1/4 inch hole in the middle is to mount it on an arbor and is plugged by a oak dowel when in use. Here is the final lid. After a while you can see the staining on the wood where the vapors have been transferring in and out, and they fit both the quart and half gallon wide mouth jars.
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These are all 1/2 gallon jars
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mason jar lids

Postby raketemensch » Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:33 pm

pfshine wrote:http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=60871&p=7402281&hilit=Hack+barrel#p7402281


Thanks man, that's good stuff.

My router table is currently keeping my UJ barrel up off the basement floor...

Oh, and thanks Corene, you posted while I was typing, that's perfect.
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Re: mason jar lids

Postby KeenPin » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:12 pm

Why not just use this between a jar lid and jar? Cut it with scissors (which i assume everyone has) and BAM your done.

https://www.amazon.ca/Slick-Sheet-Ptfe- ... ptfe+sheet

I'll wait for the flaming to come!

Unless you have some of those awesome oak lids! My wife will kill me if i buy a lathe. She's into beer (big nerd and science geek!) but helps with me developing a wash to make sure everything is clean, properly balanced, and such. She might not drink what I will make, but she knows what I did wrong!
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Re: mason jar lids

Postby Snackson » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:42 pm

KeenPin wrote:Why not just use this between a jar lid and jar? Cut it with scissors (which i assume everyone has) and BAM your done.

https://www.amazon.ca/Slick-Sheet-Ptfe- ... ptfe+sheet

I'll wait for the flaming to come!

Unless you have some of those awesome oak lids! My wife will kill me if i buy a lathe. She's into beer (big nerd and science geek!) but helps with me developing a wash to make sure everything is clean, properly balanced, and such. She might not drink what I will make, but she knows what I did wrong!

No flaming, PTFE is acceptable. Look back through and you'll see a links to disks already cut out.
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Re: mason jar lids

Postby cob » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:48 pm

KeenPin wrote:Why not just use this between a jar lid and jar? Cut it with scissors (which i assume everyone has) and BAM your done.

https://www.amazon.ca/Slick-Sheet-Ptfe- ... ptfe+sheet

I'll wait for the flaming to come.


you'll not get flamed for recommending lab grade PTFE.

that is the thinnest PTFE I have seen so far, and should work well.

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Re: mason jar lids

Postby KeenPin » Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:16 am

Yeah, I don'e expect a flame, was trying to be funny, which my wife tells me I'm not!

But it is supper thin and I am going to get some for the top of all my jars. Might also work for some other spots on the still too.
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Re: mason jar lids

Postby FreeMountainHermit » Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:26 am

KeenPin wrote:But it is supper thin


Wondering how flexible it is.
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Re: mason jar lids

Postby KeenPin » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:07 am

I ordered it today with some other things i needed. I will post pic's and information once I get it.
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Re: mason jar lids

Postby buflowing » Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:45 am

Might want to be careful with really thin ptfe sheet.

I use 0.04 inch thick for mason jar lids. When used with just the ring to hold them on, the ptfe disks are permeable to our spirits. I can see it by the abv drop over time.

Want to see something freaky, take some ptfe tape and soak it in some high proof. It will go clear on you. I think what's going on is the spirit is soaking all the way through and the ptfe loses its opacity.

If you are putting a plastisol coated lid on top of a thin ptfe sheet, what gets through the ptfe might solvate the plastisol and perhaps carry some evil back over to your drink.

To be on the safe side, when I'm done contributing my angels share and add a lid on top of my ptfe disk to halt losses, I keep my jars upright and do not shake them.
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Re: mason jar lids

Postby Down_Home52 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:21 am

Interesting reading. Is anyone offering the oak lids commercially yet? I use the ptfe discs and flip the lid over so the plastisol is up. I store them upright and have checked the lids under the ptfe for any signs of corrosion or other nastiness on the plating. Nothing there. I have stored as high as 160 proof. If you leave the plastisol down it dissolves.
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Re: mason jar lids

Postby ShineonCrazyDiamond » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:52 pm

Get rid of the lid all together, and just use the ptfe. I can get mine airtight, But back it off a little for pressure relief.
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Re: mason jar lids

Postby cob » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:45 pm

I thought gore-tex was made from something else but according to this it is another form of EPTFE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gore-Tex
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Re: mason jar lids

Postby buflowing » Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:33 am

Teflon lids breath quite a bit. Check your ABV over time and you will see. I think they are more permeable to alcohol than water since I always get an ABV decrease, unlike my barrels, where it will go up or down depending on the RH. I use them as a way to air my spirits for awhile, then cover the Teflon with the metal lid to halt the loss.
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