Taste the old backset

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Taste the old backset

Post by bilgriss » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:53 pm

Mashed a couple of mostly malt batches over the weekend, and started by heating water with about 10% backset. Not necessary when mashing malted barley, but I do like the flavor contribution and I seem to get a little more yield when mxing in some other grains (I added a little corn and rolled oats).

The bucket had been sitting for about a year, and it looked and smelled pretty good, so I dipped a finger or two into the old backset and took a taste. It's something I have often done, and didn't give it another thought.

About the time I was mixing in the grain for batch number two, I suddenly realized I had an urgent need and ran to the bathroom where I pretty near evacuated my entire insides. A couple hours later I felt fine again.

So, I guess I'll be a little more reluctant to judge backset by tasting in the future. Something grew in there that didn't work for me. Worked great in the mash though.

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Post by acfixer69 » Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:44 pm

I would never dip my finger in anything that old a year old and not expect the same or worst results. But I have that's how I now no what not to do. :lol:

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Post by Fart Vader » Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:51 pm

Here we go, I can see this thread going the proverbial drain in a hurry...
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Post by OtisT » Wed Apr 22, 2020 6:23 pm

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Post by Hillbilly Popstar » Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:04 pm

Un-duplicateable flying monkey shit whiskey
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Re: Taste the old backset

Post by Tummydoc » Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:28 pm

What length of time between tasting and diarrhea? A preformed toxin typically takes 6 hours to cause symptoms, and a live infection 24 hours. Maybe it was your breakfast rather than the backset.

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Re: Taste the old backset

Post by bilgriss » Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:26 pm

It would have been about four hours, I think. Breakfast had been a very safe cereal and coffee. Yes, sometimes you just gotta stick the finger in to find out what's going to happen. But next time, I might think twice.

Hillbilly Popstar, I like the name, but "Un-duplicatable"? I still have some of the backset if I were to feel so inclined (I don't).

Mud Butt or some derivative thereof seems about right. It'll be a couple/few weeks before I have a sense of what it's really like. Batch 3 in the mash process is going on top of a yeast cake left from a Porter I just kegged.

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Re: Taste the old backset

Post by Royco » Sun May 10, 2020 12:08 am

You could call it "The Inca Two-Step"

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Re: Taste the old backset

Post by Durhommer » Sun May 10, 2020 7:52 am

I've got a half gallon of heavy peat backset I sure as shit am not tasting it but it smells pleasant for what it is.it's about 6 months old. Any suggestions for the use of it? I do have a 55 pound run coming next weekend (breiss 2 row barley malt) should I try it on my bulk run or shit I have a rum run to make as well thatd be some funky rum
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Re: Taste the old backset

Post by metalsmith » Sun May 10, 2020 4:06 pm

acfixer69 wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:44 pm
I would never dip my finger in anything that old a year old and not expect the same or worst results. But I have that's how I now no what not to do. :lol:
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Post by Durhommer » Sun May 10, 2020 5:18 pm

I heard 16 will get you 20
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Re: Taste the old backset

Post by seabass » Sun May 10, 2020 7:24 pm

bilgriss wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:26 pm
Yes, sometimes you just gotta stick the finger in to find out what's going to happen. But next time, I might think twice.
Even without context, this is great advice.

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Post by whiskymonster » Mon May 11, 2020 11:29 am

acfixer69 wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:44 pm
I would never dip my finger in anything that old a year old and not expect the same or worst results. But I have that's how I now no what not to do. :lol:
careful fella. you only get to do that another couple or three times before you have to learn from it!
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Re: Taste the old backset

Post by bilgriss » Sat May 16, 2020 5:20 am

Spirit run this morning. The three stripping runs went off like clockwork. MuddButt is going to age for a while on some toasted and charred oak leftover from a batch of Honey Bear that I recently proofed down and bottled.

As for all the advisement and legal advice; my finger will remain where it should be, or at least get a second thought (or first) before future action. Thanks.

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Re: Taste the old backset

Post by PaulmyFinger » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:29 pm

I know this is old but it just keeps giving. I like Special #2

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Re: Taste the old backset

Post by freebase » Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:28 pm

I was curious about backset today also.
...had a very high corn mash (1º/strip/spirit run) backset left over.
let it cool overnight (covered), bottled it, & left it to use next day.

Surprisingly, It had already started 'fermenting' by the next morning.

Basically, the still run/boiling knocked off any residual yeast/fermentation potential.
...but the cooling rest allowed a bacteria to populate the liquid.
The container was not the same shape when under that amount of pressure.

Motto : Use backset whilst still hot (protected/effectively over-pasteurised) from the still run.
Any other scenario,there is a good chance of an Olympic dash...

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Re: Taste the old backset

Post by jonnys_spirit » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:48 pm

I’m making a seafood miso noodle soup tonight and use a bottle of wine to make the soup broth. Cooking off the alcohol during the process and realize that what’s left in the pot is backset “and stuff”.

Enjoy your backset I sure do!

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