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Random East Coast Saturday
What happens when you drop in on Jedneck for a day? You make whiskey, of course! In fact, today we are mashing, cooking, and blending all in one day!
How to make bourbon:
Start with a solid fermenter
Add you some fresh hammer milled corn
Add some boiling water
Stir by hand
Invite a friend over to help
How to make bourbon:
Start with a solid fermenter
Add you some fresh hammer milled corn
Add some boiling water
Stir by hand
Invite a friend over to help
"Come on you stranger, you legend, you martyr, and shine!
You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon.
Shine on you crazy diamond."
You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon.
Shine on you crazy diamond."
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Re: Random East Coast Saturday
Just make sure you pay attention when filling the boiler.
Grain bill is
50# # corn
12.5# red wheat
25# rye malt (thanks shineoncrazydimond, very generous of you.)
High temp enzymes to ensure conversion.
He also bought a few home brews. Mighty fine beer. Nice an malty with just enuf hops.
Grain bill is
50# # corn
12.5# red wheat
25# rye malt (thanks shineoncrazydimond, very generous of you.)
High temp enzymes to ensure conversion.
He also bought a few home brews. Mighty fine beer. Nice an malty with just enuf hops.
welcome aboard some of us are ornery old coots but if you do a lot of
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
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Re: Random East Coast Saturday
Here's the blending to do. Its malted corn,rye and wheat. Ran couple or 4 months ago.
welcome aboard some of us are ornery old coots but if you do a lot of
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
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Can you tell I like corn wheat and rye.
welcome aboard some of us are ornery old coots but if you do a lot of
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
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The cooking /mashing/fermenting barrel is the one I dug out of a friends barn. It is water tight enuf that the goo is gonna plug the last leak or two. Barrel was in the barn for 25+ years near as friend can remember.
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welcome aboard some of us are ornery old coots but if you do a lot of
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
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Re: Random East Coast Saturday
Add flour paste (which makes you decide to put wheat flour into the grain bill. .. )
Cook for an hour or two with steam
Cook for an hour or two with steam
"Come on you stranger, you legend, you martyr, and shine!
You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon.
Shine on you crazy diamond."
You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon.
Shine on you crazy diamond."
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Re: Random East Coast Saturday
Would you put up a pic of the steam wand please ?
TIA.
TIA.
Blah, blah, blah,........
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Steam wand is just my 4ft leibig for this cook. My normal steam wand wasn't long enuf to reach the bottom.FreeMountainHermit wrote:Would you put up a pic of the steam wand please ?
TIA.
Here is my normal wand. Its just 3/4 and has holes drilled on the bottom every inch.
welcome aboard some of us are ornery old coots but if you do a lot of
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
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Re: Random East Coast Saturday
If your lucky enough to have a good wooden stir paddle...
You can create a moment of nostalgia with stirring with wood into a wooden barrel of mash...
You can create a moment of nostalgia with stirring with wood into a wooden barrel of mash...
"Come on you stranger, you legend, you martyr, and shine!
You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon.
Shine on you crazy diamond."
You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon.
Shine on you crazy diamond."
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Re: Random East Coast Saturday
Sounds simple enuff.
Work like a paddle during mashing ???
and wear gloves of course
Work like a paddle during mashing ???
and wear gloves of course
Blah, blah, blah,........
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Real men don't need no stinken gloves. Added a good dose of enzymes to keep it from gettin thick.FreeMountainHermit wrote: Work like a paddle during mashing ???
and wear gloves of course
welcome aboard some of us are ornery old coots but if you do a lot of
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
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Does the steam mashing add much volume to the process ???
I should know this but my memory is out to lunch
I should know this but my memory is out to lunch
Blah, blah, blah,........
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Re: Random East Coast Saturday
I usually start cooking at 3#/ gallon and end up around 2 1/2 #/gallon. So yea it does add volume.
welcome aboard some of us are ornery old coots but if you do a lot of
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
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Re: Random East Coast Saturday
We gotta eat also. Little bit o venison sausage, kale, beet greens, garlic scapes, taters, basil,sage, onions and real butter all fried in one big o skillet. All washed down with one of shines great brews.
welcome aboard some of us are ornery old coots but if you do a lot of
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
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Re: Random East Coast Saturday
Malt is in 25# of rye malt. Lost a quart of mash to my belly. Damn Bourbon mashes are tastey. Gonna let it sit overnite and pitch yeast (bakers)in the am. Would you believe that this is the first time I used commercial malt. Always malted my own.
welcome aboard some of us are ornery old coots but if you do a lot of
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
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Re: Random East Coast Saturday
The malt
The mash
The mash
"Come on you stranger, you legend, you martyr, and shine!
You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon.
Shine on you crazy diamond."
You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon.
Shine on you crazy diamond."
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Added dose of second enzyme and tucked into bed. Will cool and pitch in the morning.
welcome aboard some of us are ornery old coots but if you do a lot of
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reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
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Yeast is in and its tucked in for a good ferment hopefully.
Shine thanks again for the sack o rye malt. Sucks that the weather wasn't the greatest I was lookin forward to cooking on wood, maybe next time.
Shine thanks again for the sack o rye malt. Sucks that the weather wasn't the greatest I was lookin forward to cooking on wood, maybe next time.
welcome aboard some of us are ornery old coots but if you do a lot of
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
Re: Random East Coast Saturday
good stuff there guys,
jed i never did get a chance to check out your rig over jedfest. its cool to see the steamer in action.
i hope to see you and shine again somewhere down the road
cheers
jed i never did get a chance to check out your rig over jedfest. its cool to see the steamer in action.
i hope to see you and shine again somewhere down the road
cheers
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Re: Random East Coast Saturday
Rager you are welcome any time. If my math was right there should be around 4.5 gallons to 100% happy in the barrel if it goes to 1.000. Got the groceries for another ferment then I'll do a spirit run. 175# of grain should give me a nice little stock pile.
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welcome aboard some of us are ornery old coots but if you do a lot of
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
Re: Random East Coast Saturday
Awesome!! Thanks for the pics, love to see other's tools of the trade and processes. Thoroughly enjoyed ya'll's story!
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Re: Random East Coast Saturday
You take care of that ferment now. Looks good, and I'm looking forward to trying our hard work. You're more than welcome for the malt. It was the least I could do in the journey to a good drop! Thanks for the eggs! Stopped and got some smoked garlic bacon from a spot on the way home. Going to make a fine bacon and eggs sandwich for dinner!jedneck wrote:Yeast is in and its tucked in for a good ferment hopefully.
Shine thanks again for the sack o rye malt. Sucks that the weather wasn't the greatest I was lookin forward to cooking on wood, maybe next time.
Oh!, I have to go try my jar from Jedfest to see if there are cherries there, too!
"Come on you stranger, you legend, you martyr, and shine!
You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon.
Shine on you crazy diamond."
You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon.
Shine on you crazy diamond."
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Now just gotta hope life don't get in the way.
welcome aboard some of us are ornery old coots but if you do a lot of
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
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Re: Random East Coast Saturday
Diamond and Jed,
Thanks for sharing your day! WoW! Nice write up. Love the wood on wood barrel and paddle! That should make a fine dram.
What enzymes did you use to keep it workable?
Just Sayin'
Thanks for sharing your day! WoW! Nice write up. Love the wood on wood barrel and paddle! That should make a fine dram.
What enzymes did you use to keep it workable?
Just Sayin'
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Opti-mash and ulti-ferm. I believe the malt would have been enuf but I have the enzymes so what the hell.
welcome aboard some of us are ornery old coots but if you do a lot of
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
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reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
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Sitting here watching the boob tube and every now and then I catch a good whiff of fermenting Bourbon mash.
Thanks again shine.
Thanks again shine.
welcome aboard some of us are ornery old coots but if you do a lot of
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big help
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reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
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Re: Random East Coast Saturday
Ferment went to .999999999 or 8.3%. It was 1.01 in 36 hours and 1.005 in 60 hours. Got half stripped last nite. Got near 5 gallons of lowwines at a little higher proof than what I normally stop at. I pushed my rig to the fill limit and was starting to get signs of eminent puking. With output measuring 20% I shut er down. Normally I go till collected volume is 25-30%. Gonna try and get the rest ran tonite.
57% corn
14%wheat
29% rye malt
Here is the bill. I believe I found a new fav. And its showing potential for a white sipper. But most will be oaked.
Just an update for those that where following along.
57% corn
14%wheat
29% rye malt
Here is the bill. I believe I found a new fav. And its showing potential for a white sipper. But most will be oaked.
Just an update for those that where following along.
welcome aboard some of us are ornery old coots but if you do a lot of
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
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Re: Random East Coast Saturday
Got another shiner weekend in! Although this time we were cooking beer. Can't live on whiskey alone. Sometimes you need a cold brew to drink with it!
Panickry came over today and helped put together Christmas in Jul-IPA. It Is an imperial ipa with a load of citrus and tangerine explosion hops. And of course, fresh spruce tips (thus, the Christmas part!). Thanks MCH for the inspiration! The initial sweet wort didn't have that much pine in it, so, hope it comes through. Tasted nice, anyways.
All tucked away, with a half gallon starter of British ale malt.
Jed,
How did the rest of the strip go? Did you ferment the other half yet?
Panickry came over today and helped put together Christmas in Jul-IPA. It Is an imperial ipa with a load of citrus and tangerine explosion hops. And of course, fresh spruce tips (thus, the Christmas part!). Thanks MCH for the inspiration! The initial sweet wort didn't have that much pine in it, so, hope it comes through. Tasted nice, anyways.
All tucked away, with a half gallon starter of British ale malt.
Jed,
How did the rest of the strip go? Did you ferment the other half yet?
"Come on you stranger, you legend, you martyr, and shine!
You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon.
Shine on you crazy diamond."
You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon.
Shine on you crazy diamond."
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Re: Random East Coast Saturday
Unfortunately due to family issues I had to give the fish a drink. Hope they like Bourbon mash. Also dumped the allbrann ferment. But I got 5 gallons of lowwines stashed for after it cools down.ShineonCrazyDiamond wrote:
Jed,
How did the rest of the strip go? Did you ferment the other half yet?
welcome aboard some of us are ornery old coots but if you do a lot of
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
big help
Dunder
Re: Random East Coast Saturday
Thank you guys so much for sharing this great time you had. I just found the thread and was hanging on every word. We are in the process of moving. I have just negotiated the largest and best deal of my life (seriously, I can't believe I pulled it off.) Now comes the task of moving, getting a new job, and restructuring our lives. I should have a little extra time at first until we can afford to really turn the new place into a ranch. Then I'll likely have even less time. I miss spending the hours quietly cooking and distilling my own product. Even as its been stressful doing it in the city it is still somehow serene. I'd give my left nut to have been there with you guys. Once again thank you for sharing. It meant a lot to me and likely to many others unable to participate because of their situations.
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All grain corn mash with steam injection and enzymes http://tinyurl.com/mp6zdt5
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