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Re: Direct steam injection

Postby shadylane » Mon May 16, 2016 2:27 pm

That's a nice set up, Fart
It takes brains to make gravity work for you. :thumbup:
Didja build the lift from scratch or modify a ready made one?
Got a picture of your injector?
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Re: Direct steam injection

Postby Fart Vader » Tue May 17, 2016 8:27 am

shadylane wrote:That's a nice set up, Fart


Hi shady. In hindsight I guess my forum name isn't very flattering. :oops: Flatulating maybe! :lol:

The lift is of my own design, I tested it with a full barrel (200L) of water 200kg/440lbs. I might replace the hand winch with a cheap atv winch, pretty hard to hoist with that much weight. Then again, I won't be winching that often.

Here's a picture of the business end of the injector.
Small holes all the way through (both sides). I arranged the holes to be sideways in the barrel. Didn't have an issue with plugging, pressure never went up.
55lbs of corn, 15lbs un-malted barley, 35gals of water, enzymes. SG:1.05
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Re: Direct steam injection

Postby Brutal » Tue May 17, 2016 2:52 pm

Cool idea with the lift! Looks like you got a good working set up. Nice job.
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Re: Direct steam injection

Postby Rain Distillate » Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:04 am

Next build
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Re: Direct steam injection

Postby shadylane » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:11 pm

rain distillate wrote:Next build

Your turn :lol:
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Re: Direct steam injection

Postby Rain Distillate » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:31 am

shadylane wrote:
rain distillate wrote:Next build

Your turn :lol:


I know I know.

It would be already complete if I wasn't having so much trouble finding low prv rated for steam. I'd like to have two. Each within a psi (or so) of each other as a backup. Any help locating these would be great!
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Re: Direct steam injection

Postby shadylane » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:59 pm

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Re: Direct steam injection

Postby Rain Distillate » Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:03 pm



5 psi is safe inside a keg? I was thinking 1 psi and a redundant 3psi as a fail safe....5 isn't too large?
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Re: Direct steam injection

Postby shadylane » Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:56 pm

5 psi is the lowest, steam rated relief valve I have found.
I also have a 6 foot tall manometer, that will start blowing bubbles at 2.6 psi
When I'm injecting steam into a 24" deep container, the pressure will be a little over .87 psi
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Re: Direct steam injection

Postby MichiganCornhusker » Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:34 pm

shadylane wrote:...a 6 foot tall manometer, that will start blowing bubbles at 2.6 psi
When I'm injecting steam into a 24" deep container, the pressure will be a little over .87 psi

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Re: Direct steam injection

Postby Rain Distillate » Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:46 pm

shadylane wrote:I also have a 6 foot tall manometer, that will start blowing bubbles at 2.6 psi


Do you have a picture of your manometer setup?
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Re: Direct steam injection

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Re: Direct steam injection

Postby shadylane » Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:04 pm

rain distillate wrote:
shadylane wrote:I also have a 6 foot tall manometer, that will start blowing bubbles at 2.6 psi


Do you have a picture of your manometer setup?

Not of the tall one, but heres a pic of my .5 psi pressure gage and PRV
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Re: Direct steam injection

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Re: Direct steam injection

Postby Rain Distillate » Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:09 am

shadylane wrote:5 psi is the lowest, steam rated relief valve I have found.
I also have a 6 foot tall manometer, that will start blowing bubbles at 2.6 psi
When I'm injecting steam into a 24" deep container, the pressure will be a little over .87 psi


After some digging I found that releif valve I just need someone to chime in and tell me if they think it'll work.
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Re: Direct steam injection

Postby shadylane » Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:01 pm

JMHO
It will work on a small boiler
But it will vent if you try blowing bubbles more than around 2 foot deep
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Re: Direct steam injection

Postby Rain Distillate » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:46 am

This is looking to be a much more complex project then I initially thought it was going to be. I'm all about safety I just don't know where to start.
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Re: Direct steam injection

Postby shadylane » Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:11 pm

rain distillate wrote:This is looking to be a much more complex project then I initially thought it was going to be. I'm all about safety I just don't know where to start.


Direct steam injection is a thumper you cook in :lol:
I think it's safer than a thumper, there's no flammable alcohol vapor involved.
Just make sure something connected to the boiler will start leaking steam, long before enough pressure builds up to go BOOM.
That's why I like using a manometer, It's fail safe, simple and Cheap.
As a side benefit, It also gives a very accurate measurement of pressure
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Re: Direct steam injection

Postby acfixer69 » Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:17 pm

shadylane wrote:
rain distillate wrote:This is looking to be a much more complex project then I initially thought it was going to be. I'm all about safety I just don't know where to start.


Direct steam injection is a thumper you cook in :lol:
I think it's safer than a thumper, there's no flammable alcohol vapor involved.
Just make sure something connected to the boiler will start leaking steam, long before enough pressure builds up to go BOOM.
That's why I like using a manometer, It's fail safe, simple and Cheap. J
As a side benefit, It also gives a very accurate measurement of pressure


Agree 100% for the home distiller it is the tool

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Re: Direct steam injection

Postby zapata » Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:34 pm

Neat elevator! How does it work? I see what looks like a small set of pulleys, but they don't look like enough to lift a full barrel, unless you use a winch or something?
*Edit, never mind, got the pic up on a big screen and can see the hand winch now (and the comment about it) Still a neat contraption. Also if you don't want to go the power winch upgrade, a few more pulleys and you can do it all mechanically. Anyway, feel free to post some detailed shots of that frame, I think it's one of the cooler projects I've seen on here.
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