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Re: Direct steam injection
Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 2:27 pm
by shadylane
That's a nice set up, Fart
It takes brains to make gravity work for you.
Didja build the lift from scratch or modify a ready made one?
Got a picture of your injector?
Re: Direct steam injection
Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 8:27 am
by Fart Vader
shadylane wrote:That's a nice set up, Fart
Hi shady. In hindsight I guess my forum name isn't very flattering.
Flatulating maybe!
The lift is of my own design, I tested it with a full barrel (200L) of water 200kg/440lbs. I might replace the hand winch with a cheap atv winch, pretty hard to hoist with that much weight. Then again, I won't be winching that often.
Here's a picture of the business end of the injector.
Small holes all the way through (both sides). I arranged the holes to be sideways in the barrel. Didn't have an issue with plugging, pressure never went up.
55lbs of corn, 15lbs un-malted barley, 35gals of water, enzymes. SG:1.05
Very happy so far!
Re: Direct steam injection
Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 2:52 pm
by Brutal
Cool idea with the lift! Looks like you got a good working set up. Nice job.
Re: Direct steam injection
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:04 am
by Rain Distillate
Next build
Re: Direct steam injection
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:11 pm
by shadylane
rain distillate wrote:Next build
Your turn
Re: Direct steam injection
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:31 am
by Rain Distillate
shadylane wrote:rain distillate wrote:Next build
Your turn
I know I know.
It would be already complete if I wasn't having so much trouble finding
low prv rated for steam. I'd like to have two. Each within a psi (or so) of each other as a backup. Any help locating these would be great!
Rain Distillate
Re: Direct steam injection
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:59 pm
by shadylane
Here you go
https://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Valve-13- ... lief+valve" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
Re: Direct steam injection
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:03 pm
by Rain Distillate
5 psi is safe inside a keg? I was thinking 1 psi and a redundant 3psi as a fail safe....5 isn't too large?
Thanks
Rain
Re: Direct steam injection
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:56 pm
by shadylane
5 psi is the lowest, steam rated relief valve I have found.
I also have a 6 foot tall manometer, that will start blowing bubbles at 2.6 psi
When I'm injecting steam into a 24" deep container, the pressure will be a little over .87 psi
Re: Direct steam injection
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:34 pm
by MichiganCornhusker
shadylane wrote:...a 6 foot tall manometer, that will start blowing bubbles at 2.6 psi
When I'm injecting steam into a 24" deep container, the pressure will be a little over .87 psi
+1
Re: Direct steam injection
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:46 pm
by Rain Distillate
shadylane wrote:
I also have a 6 foot tall manometer, that will start blowing bubbles at 2.6 psi
Do you have a picture of your manometer setup?
Re: Direct steam injection
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:57 pm
by Rain Distillate
Very pricey but would this work?
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/all-po ... 61203.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
Re: Direct steam injection
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:04 pm
by shadylane
rain distillate wrote:shadylane wrote:
I also have a 6 foot tall manometer, that will start blowing bubbles at 2.6 psi
Do you have a picture of your manometer setup?
Not of the tall one, but heres a pic of my .5 psi pressure gage and PRV
Re: Direct steam injection
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:42 am
by Rain Distillate
Would this relief valve work?
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/all-po ... 61203.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
Re: Direct steam injection
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:09 am
by Rain Distillate
shadylane wrote:5 psi is the lowest, steam rated relief valve I have found.
I also have a 6 foot tall manometer, that will start blowing bubbles at 2.6 psi
When I'm injecting steam into a 24" deep container, the pressure will be a little over .87 psi
After some digging I found that releif valve I just need someone to chime in and tell me if they think it'll work.
Re: Direct steam injection
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:01 pm
by shadylane
JMHO
It will work on a small boiler
But it will vent if you try blowing bubbles more than around 2 foot deep
Re: Direct steam injection
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:46 am
by Rain Distillate
This is looking to be a much more complex project then I initially thought it was going to be. I'm all about safety I just don't know where to start.
Re: Direct steam injection
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:11 pm
by shadylane
rain distillate wrote:This is looking to be a much more complex project then I initially thought it was going to be. I'm all about safety I just don't know where to start.
Direct steam injection is a thumper you cook in
I think it's safer than a thumper, there's no flammable alcohol vapor involved.
Just make sure something connected to the boiler will start leaking steam, long before enough pressure builds up to go BOOM.
That's why I like using a manometer, It's fail safe, simple and Cheap.
As a side benefit, It also gives a very accurate measurement of pressure
Re: Direct steam injection
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:17 pm
by acfixer69
shadylane wrote:rain distillate wrote:This is looking to be a much more complex project then I initially thought it was going to be. I'm all about safety I just don't know where to start.
Direct steam injection is a thumper you cook in
I think it's safer than a thumper, there's no flammable alcohol vapor involved.
Just make sure something connected to the boiler will start leaking steam, long before enough pressure builds up to go BOOM.
That's why I like using a manometer, It's fail safe, simple and Cheap. J
As a side benefit, It also gives a very accurate measurement of pressure
Agree 100% for the home distiller it is the tool
AC
Re: Direct steam injection
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:34 pm
by zapata
Neat elevator! How does it work? I see what looks like a small set of pulleys, but they don't look like enough to lift a full barrel, unless you use a winch or something?
*Edit, never mind, got the pic up on a big screen and can see the hand winch now (and the comment about it) Still a neat contraption. Also if you don't want to go the power winch upgrade, a few more pulleys and you can do it all mechanically. Anyway, feel free to post some detailed shots of that frame, I think it's one of the cooler projects I've seen on here.