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Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby Oldvine Zin » Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:45 pm

Started this project with my posts going to Still Related Hardware not knowing what I was going to do with this tank
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built a lid for it
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I'm going to set it up for steam mashing, started on the wand today- started with a 6.5 foot piece of 3/4" copper
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sent it through a HF roller and ended up with a 24" ish circle of copper.
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drilled some inward holes at the same angle as the cone at the bottom
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Soldered the tee and riser

Now waiting on more parts to arrive and some more free time to work on it.

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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby yakattack » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:06 pm

* grabs popcorn and cold beer and takes a seat on the bench in the corner*
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby bitter » Sun Aug 14, 2016 5:18 am

Awesome. Too bad its so large or could do a steam strip in the grain with to.

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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby Oldvine Zin » Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:57 am

bitter wrote:Awesome. Too bad its so large or could do a steam strip in the grain with to.

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I had the same thought, that's why I made the plastic lid instead of a stainless one -it would be too tempting to add a column to it. Maybe someday when I go craft!

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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby steelmb » Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:14 am

Oldvine Zin wrote:
bitter wrote:Awesome. Too bad its so large or could do a steam strip in the grain with to.

B


I had the same thought, that's why I made the plastic lid instead of a stainless one -it would be too tempting to add a column to it. Maybe someday when I go craft!

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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby shadylane » Sun Aug 14, 2016 3:05 pm

Just a thought.
Nice looking Mash tun/fermentor build :thumbup:
A conical bottom like that begs for a bigger drain valve.
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby Oldvine Zin » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:26 pm

shadylane wrote:Just a thought.
Nice looking Mash tun/fermentor build :thumbup:
A conical bottom like that begs for a bigger drain valve.


Damn you shady :) I thought about that and decided it was something that I could add later, but now.....
Might go with a 3" TC system
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby shadylane » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:45 pm

Three inch should do it.
I sometimes have to poke my two inch with a stick to unclog it :lol:
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby Oldvine Zin » Sat Aug 20, 2016 3:14 pm

3" valves are almost twice the cost of 2" - might go with a 2" drain and have money left over to buy a stick :D
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby shadylane » Sat Aug 20, 2016 3:36 pm

Oldvine Zin wrote:3" valves are almost twice the cost of 2" - might go with a 2" drain and have money left over to buy a stick :D

Sounds like words of wisdom to me :thumbup: :lol:
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby ShineonCrazyDiamond » Sat Aug 20, 2016 3:37 pm

Oldvine Zin wrote:
bitter wrote:Awesome. Too bad its so large or could do a steam strip in the grain with to.

B


I had the same thought, that's why I made the plastic lid instead of a stainless one -it would be too tempting to add a column to it. Maybe someday when I go craft!

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We just up-ed it to 30. That looks like 30, right?

Same steam wand is perfect for stripping to. All 30 gallons. Cook, mash, ferment, strip all in the same vessel.

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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby shadylane » Sat Aug 20, 2016 3:51 pm

Just a drunken thought
It takes less than a #15 keg boiler to drive the #30 mash thumper.
Don't remember if there's a limit to thumper size. :roll:
In all honesty we are about getting home distillation legal.
So let's keep the discussion down to that limit
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby Oldvine Zin » Sun Aug 21, 2016 5:13 pm

It's just going to be a fermentor - if and when I go craft it might turn into something else but for now it's hobby only.

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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby shadylane » Sun Aug 21, 2016 5:46 pm

+1 your idea will work very well :thumbup:
You have some nice tools to get the job done. :lol:
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby Badmotivator » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:17 pm

Hey, OVZ. I was playing around with a homemade dewatering machine earlier this year. I had a hopper feeding spent cracked corn into a 3" TC ferrule, and even at that diameter the corn was "bridging", that is, forming a structure that would stick and not collapse down through that 3" opening. So with a 2 or a 3 I think you may still need some stick work or high pressure rinse water to get cracked corn to flow down nicely.

You want to hear some crazy talk? A CIP nozzle installed a few inches above the drain, pointing down toward it, on the inside of your tank, and they faked the moon landing.
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby Oldvine Zin » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:18 pm

Since it was a cloudy day I decided to spend it indoors and work on my project.
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2" ferrule tigged to the abse of the cone
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Elbow and valve
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The start of the steam generator. And yes Shady I'm planning on building a "manly" manometer for it :lol:


edited to say abse = base
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby jedneck » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:23 pm

enviuos
looking good
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby shadylane » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:32 pm

Dadburnit
Post more pictures and tell us the how and why.
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby Oldvine Zin » Sat Aug 27, 2016 8:03 pm

jedneck wrote:enviuos
looking good

I have the toys but someday I hope that I can make a drop as good as yours
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby Oldvine Zin » Sun Aug 28, 2016 5:00 pm

shadylane wrote:Dadburnit
Post more pictures and tell us the how and why.

Well I'm not doing anything new or groundbreaking - just trying to figure out this steam thing :)
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1" triclover to some 1" copper first tee has a fitting for a 15 lbs prv and a takeoff for the manometer(just for you Shady) second tee is the output via a braided stainless hose to a tri fitting and then up to a ball valve that will hopefully work as the vacuum break
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Attachments to the fermentor
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby Oldvine Zin » Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:29 pm

First attempt building a manometer
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Built from scraps I had laying around - still needs work. This version is good for about 8psi, - 10psi and I made a mess :oops:
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby shadylane » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:17 pm

If you want a manly sized monometer make it 6 feet tall and it will blow the water out at around 3 psi :lol:
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby Snackson » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:44 pm

This is horrendous! You should box it up and ship to me to dispose of.

Good looking work! I've been thinking about replacing my elements with two of these, http://www.norcalbrewingsolutions.com/s ... pling.html and some copper pipe with holes drilled in it for a steam stripper for distilling the grain. Use my old keg boiler to feed it with steam.
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby Oldvine Zin » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:05 pm

shadylane wrote:If you want a manly sized manometer make it 6 feet tall and it will blow the water out at around 3 psi :lol:

Damn I guess that I only have a girly sized manometer :lol:
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby shadylane » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:26 pm

What are you using to color the water in your mano?
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On a side note, using a TC to connect the injector like you did is a good idea :thumbup:
Makes it a lot easier and less messy to remove and clean the injector
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby Oldvine Zin » Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:32 am

Thanks Shady!
Just a bit of red food color in the water
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby Oldvine Zin » Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:05 pm

Oh and Shady I showed you mine what about you showing yours :)
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby Oldvine Zin » Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:15 pm

Snackson wrote:This is horrendous! You should box it up and ship to me to dispose of.

Good looking work! I've been thinking about replacing my elements with two of these, http://www.norcalbrewingsolutions.com/s ... pling.html and some copper pipe with holes drilled in it for a steam stripper for distilling the grain. Use my old keg boiler to feed it with steam.

Snackson I think that this is a better and safer option https://www.brewershardware.com/TC15F10NPSCOV.html
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby Oldvine Zin » Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:23 pm

oopps snackson, thought you were going all electric_look at brewers hardware for a better price on those fittings
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project

Postby Snackson » Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:08 pm

Already electric, going to use the 1/2" NPT pass through 2" triclover for the steam to go into the kettle. I have a 26 gallon milk can with two 2" ferrules. Use the NorCal part to send steam to internal pipe manifolds. Attach fitting to boiler, attach manifold inside boiler, connect steam line to the external side of fitting on boiler, send steam in to strip alcohol from grains.
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