Mash tun / fermentor project
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Mash tun / fermentor project
Started this project with my posts going to Still Related Hardware not knowing what I was going to do with this tank
Now waiting on more parts to arrive and some more free time to work on it.
OVZ
built a lid for it
I'm going to set it up for steam mashing, started on the wand today- started with a 6.5 foot piece of 3/4" copper sent it through a HF roller and ended up with a 24" ish circle of copper. drilled some inward holes at the same angle as the cone at the bottom Soldered the tee and riser Now waiting on more parts to arrive and some more free time to work on it.
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* grabs popcorn and cold beer and takes a seat on the bench in the corner*
HDNB wrote: The trick here is to learn what leads to a stalled mash....and quit doing that.
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Awesome. Too bad its so large or could do a steam strip in the grain with to.
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project
I had the same thought, that's why I made the plastic lid instead of a stainless one -it would be too tempting to add a column to it. Maybe someday when I go craft!bitter wrote:Awesome. Too bad its so large or could do a steam strip in the grain with to.
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It's ok to do it now, you just can't tell anyone here.Oldvine Zin wrote:I had the same thought, that's why I made the plastic lid instead of a stainless one -it would be too tempting to add a column to it. Maybe someday when I go craft!bitter wrote:Awesome. Too bad its so large or could do a steam strip in the grain with to.
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Re: Mash tun / fermentor project
Just a thought.
Nice looking Mash tun/fermentor build
A conical bottom like that begs for a bigger drain valve.
Nice looking Mash tun/fermentor build
A conical bottom like that begs for a bigger drain valve.
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Damn you shady I thought about that and decided it was something that I could add later, but now.....shadylane wrote:Just a thought.
Nice looking Mash tun/fermentor build
A conical bottom like that begs for a bigger drain valve.
Might go with a 3" TC system
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Three inch should do it.
I sometimes have to poke my two inch with a stick to unclog it
I sometimes have to poke my two inch with a stick to unclog it
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3" valves are almost twice the cost of 2" - might go with a 2" drain and have money left over to buy a stick
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Sounds like words of wisdom to meOldvine Zin wrote:3" valves are almost twice the cost of 2" - might go with a 2" drain and have money left over to buy a stick
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We just up-ed it to 30. That looks like 30, right?Oldvine Zin wrote:I had the same thought, that's why I made the plastic lid instead of a stainless one -it would be too tempting to add a column to it. Maybe someday when I go craft!bitter wrote:Awesome. Too bad its so large or could do a steam strip in the grain with to.
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Same steam wand is perfect for stripping to. All 30 gallons. Cook, mash, ferment, strip all in the same vessel.
Good luck!
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Just a drunken thought
It takes less than a #15 keg boiler to drive the #30 mash thumper.
Don't remember if there's a limit to thumper size.
In all honesty we are about getting home distillation legal.
So let's keep the discussion down to that limit
It takes less than a #15 keg boiler to drive the #30 mash thumper.
Don't remember if there's a limit to thumper size.
In all honesty we are about getting home distillation legal.
So let's keep the discussion down to that limit
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It's just going to be a fermentor - if and when I go craft it might turn into something else but for now it's hobby only.
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+1 your idea will work very well
You have some nice tools to get the job done.
You have some nice tools to get the job done.
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Hey, OVZ. I was playing around with a homemade dewatering machine earlier this year. I had a hopper feeding spent cracked corn into a 3" TC ferrule, and even at that diameter the corn was "bridging", that is, forming a structure that would stick and not collapse down through that 3" opening. So with a 2 or a 3 I think you may still need some stick work or high pressure rinse water to get cracked corn to flow down nicely.
You want to hear some crazy talk? A CIP nozzle installed a few inches above the drain, pointing down toward it, on the inside of your tank, and they faked the moon landing.
You want to hear some crazy talk? A CIP nozzle installed a few inches above the drain, pointing down toward it, on the inside of your tank, and they faked the moon landing.
Trying to make it real compared to what?
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Since it was a cloudy day I decided to spend it indoors and work on my project.
edited to say abse = base
2" ferrule tigged to the abse of the cone Elbow and valve The start of the steam generator. And yes Shady I'm planning on building a "manly" manometer for it edited to say abse = base
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enviuos
looking good
looking good
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reading and don't ask stupid questions you'll be alright most are
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Dadburnit
Post more pictures and tell us the how and why.
Post more pictures and tell us the how and why.
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I have the toys but someday I hope that I can make a drop as good as yoursjedneck wrote:enviuos
looking good
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Well I'm not doing anything new or groundbreaking - just trying to figure out this steam thing 1" triclover to some 1" copper first tee has a fitting for a 15 lbs prv and a takeoff for the manometer(just for you Shady) second tee is the output via a braided stainless hose to a tri fitting and then up to a ball valve that will hopefully work as the vacuum break Attachments to the fermentorshadylane wrote:Dadburnit
Post more pictures and tell us the how and why.
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First attempt building a manometer
Built from scraps I had laying around - still needs work. This version is good for about 8psi, - 10psi and I made a mess - shadylane
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If you want a manly sized monometer make it 6 feet tall and it will blow the water out at around 3 psi
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This is horrendous! You should box it up and ship to me to dispose of.
Good looking work! I've been thinking about replacing my elements with two of these, http://www.norcalbrewingsolutions.com/s ... pling.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow and some copper pipe with holes drilled in it for a steam stripper for distilling the grain. Use my old keg boiler to feed it with steam.
Good looking work! I've been thinking about replacing my elements with two of these, http://www.norcalbrewingsolutions.com/s ... pling.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow and some copper pipe with holes drilled in it for a steam stripper for distilling the grain. Use my old keg boiler to feed it with steam.
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Damn I guess that I only have a girly sized manometershadylane wrote:If you want a manly sized manometer make it 6 feet tall and it will blow the water out at around 3 psi
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What are you using to color the water in your mano?
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On a side note, using a TC to connect the injector like you did is a good idea
Makes it a lot easier and less messy to remove and clean the injector
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On a side note, using a TC to connect the injector like you did is a good idea
Makes it a lot easier and less messy to remove and clean the injector
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Thanks Shady!
Just a bit of red food color in the water
Just a bit of red food color in the water
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Oh and Shady I showed you mine what about you showing yours
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Snackson I think that this is a better and safer option https://www.brewershardware.com/TC15F10NPSCOV.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollowSnackson wrote:This is horrendous! You should box it up and ship to me to dispose of.
Good looking work! I've been thinking about replacing my elements with two of these, http://www.norcalbrewingsolutions.com/s ... pling.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow and some copper pipe with holes drilled in it for a steam stripper for distilling the grain. Use my old keg boiler to feed it with steam.
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oopps snackson, thought you were going all electric_look at brewers hardware for a better price on those fittings
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Already electric, going to use the 1/2" NPT pass through 2" triclover for the steam to go into the kettle. I have a 26 gallon milk can with two 2" ferrules. Use the NorCal part to send steam to internal pipe manifolds. Attach fitting to boiler, attach manifold inside boiler, connect steam line to the external side of fitting on boiler, send steam in to strip alcohol from grains.