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Re: Lets get carried away with fruity goodness

Postby cranky » Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:40 pm

Wow, that's a lot of questions Shineon :lol:

Lets see :problem:
Shine0n wrote:juse wondering how the fruit season on the west coast is coming along?

Things have been crazy here, our winter was long, cold and wet and the trees are running behind. The cherries are just starting to produce and I have been battling birds to get them first. I need to go check on the big cherry tree I got permission to pick but haven't managed to find the time. I also got a line on another big cherry not too far away but can't find time to pick the one a half mile away so I don't know how I will find the time to do that one. Not long ago my wife decided we needed a retaining wall and fence and some other things came up which really cut into my fruit prep time so as usual I am way behind there. I almost have the new apple chopper together and did a video of the first successful test run a couple days ago but it still needs some reinforcement and a chute before it's ready to see apples. Fortunately the Apple Reaper is up and running very well, I even had the original AM radio converted to AM/FM/Aux, so I have something to listen to on the drives to the apples :D I also need to go check on the early apples, I hope to do that on my way home from work tomorrow. I checked the Bella Vistas a couple weeks ago and they look late, so I expect the transparents will be late as well. Plums are looking good but again, running late. The cherry flights have begun at the airport so there are a lot of 747s freighters coming and going loaded with cherries bound for Asia. I think they said the cherry harvest is expected to be near record high this year. Then there are the blueberries. I transplanted my blueberries so they weren't allowed to produce this year so I will have to make the trip to Tacoma and see how they are looking this year. The guy I work with who had the Asian pear and some apples and grapes and other stuff he let me pick has sold his house to a developer, so I lost those trees but hopefully can find some other pears. The blueberry park has some apples so maybe I can get a couple hundred extra pounds there. Damn that's a lot of typing but as I type I am getting excited over the fruit that is about to start rolling in :D

Shine0n wrote:If I recall you saying you wait to see a brix of 12???
Now usually the apples start falling around Sept and Oct but they seem already high in sugars, do you suppose they will get better twards that time or should I be ready at the time the brix gets 12 or a bit higher?

Less rain usually means smaller sweeter apples, and I've found that brix doesn't tell the whole story. I've sort of adopted a loose attitude about it all. I figure when the apples start dropping it's time to start picking. I like to check the brix but a taste tells the story best. If it has a powderyness it usually isn't quite ready but once they start dropping I know I need to get them regardless. It helps to get to the point of knowing the specific trees and how they produce but in my opinion the longer they can stay on the tree the better. Of course you don't want to leave them so long you lose them, some of my apple trees will seem far from ready then BAM! one day they start dropping and they are gone in a week.

Shine0n wrote:after picking how long can an apple sit without going bad? I wont be able to pick them all in a day or two so I'll have to let them sit foe a spell.

That all depends on the apple. If you know the specific variety the website Orangepippin.com ( https://www.orangepippin.com/apples ) can help gauge that. I know the trees I currently pick and how long they last, the transparents can last 2 weeks without losing too many but not longer, the Bella Vistas are good for 3 days, in 5 you lose quite a bit and in a week you will lose most. The Antiques are good keepers I've left them in the garage for as long as 6 months with no problems at all. Some apples actually benefit from sitting after picking others go bad fast. Usually 2 weeks is Ok but I do try to get them done as soon as possible after picking.

Shine0n wrote:Hope things are well in the pnw and hope to see you about the forum soon talking about apples and apples and more apples.

I know I've not been spending much time on here, life has been getting in the way but hopefully things will calm down in a few weeks but even though I'm busy life is pretty good here in the PNW :D

Shine0n wrote:Also, what is your take on fermenting on the pulp or fermenting just the pulp after pressing? I know it's alot of space taking stuff but will it be worth the effort? More flavor? Or a big pita.

For me it is a pain to do on the pulp but Der Wo seems to think it's the best way to go. I think it's probably one of those things you have to try and see what you think is right for you. I know that's kind of a shitty answer but that's about all I can say.
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Re: Lets get carried away with fruity goodness

Postby Shine0n » Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:19 am

Not shit type at all, you give honest, open minded, and to the point answers and that's what I appreciate about your advice.
I'm sure if der wo scrolls down to this thread he will give some great advice as well.

Glad to here the PNW is good and the reaper is in top shape for the gathering :thumbup:

good luck with the cherries, my tree was sipped in 1 weekend, ONE!!! Could be worse and all the apples be gone the same way.

I'll start my own thread and get advice along the way and come to a conclusion when the time arises.

Thanks Cranky,
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Re: Lets get carried away with fruity goodness

Postby cranky » Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:28 am

Those damn birds love those cherries. That's one advantage to Rainier cherries, because they don't turn red the birds don't realize they are ripe.

I went over yesterday and looked at the early apples and that big cherry. The Transparents are still far from ripe, only 9 brix so I have some time there. It's looking pretty good, the apples are a bit small at the moment but it is pretty well loaded, I should easily get enough to do a proper timed test of the chopper and top up the barrel. I might even do another barrel aged cider, that actually turned out well last year. The cherries don't look good at all, they aren't getting big, just shriveling up on the tree so maybe I wont get those cherries this year either. I may have to take that drive up to West Seattle to the tree the one guy told me about and see if I can get enough to make a proper kirsch but it's not looking very promising.
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Re: Lets get carried away with fruity goodness

Postby cranky » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:54 pm

Yesterday I stopped on my way home from work to check on the early apples again. They are actually looking pretty good They are now testing at 11 brix with a clearly defined line. One thing I don't think I have ever mentioned is that the nearer to ripe the apple is the cleared and more distinct the line is on my refractometer. When it is under ripe there is more of a gradient than a line. These apples don't get very much higher than 11 brix so they are getting very close to dropping. my plan is to stop by every couple days and check on them. Unfortunately I got involved in a little project of making one good car out of two bad ones and that has been taking a lot of my time. The new chopper is running considerably behind schedule too. I did some more mods to it yesterday and hope that it is now all sorted out. There are still some minor things to do to be ready but hopefully that will get sorted within the next few days.

While visiting the transparent I took the time to check on the cherry once again. That was a bit of a surprise. There were suddenly lots of tiny little dark red cherries, ripe and ready to pick. Because they are so tiny I picked a hand full to do some testing on before I decided to return to pick more. When I got home I broke out the refractometer and was shocked to see they are at 28 brix :esurprised: . I was even more shocked when I popped one in my mouth :wtf: They taste absolutely HORRIBLE!!! There is a distinct cherry flavor to them but they are also bitter and pretty nasty. I am still debating going ahead and picking them and see how they come out, because after all the worst apples often make the best brandy, maybe the same holds true with these cherries. I just don't know that I want to take the time to bother since I have so much else to do. Of course I've always lived by the saying "If you put off something long enough it either becomes unnecessary, impossible or somebody else does it" and I know I only have a few days to make up my mind. My own cherry trees produced pretty well but the birds, raccoons and ants got most of them. Those damn fat raccoons even climbed one of the trees to get a branch that was netted and broke the damn branch :evil: I still got a couple dozen nice black cherries for eating straight :) Next year I plan on pruning the trees and properly netting them. For what are supposed to be dwarf cherries they are getting a little out of control.

The plums are coming along nicely, running late but looking really good, my Beauty plum is producing more than it ever has. I doubt I will be able to use any of those for stilling because for some reason they produce a very nice full flavored sweet plum that has a distinct banana finish and my wife absolutely loves them. So to make her happy she gets the beauty plums and I get the European plums.

Well that's about all that's going on in my little world of fruity goodness :D
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Re: Lets get carried away with fruity goodness

Postby raketemensch » Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:17 pm

So, my apple/pear trees have been in the ground a year now. I’ve been training the branches to ideal angles and picking the blossoms so they put their energy into their root systems. All good, right?

The other day I noticed that their beautiful green leaves are now covered with orange spots. Huh.

It turns out to most likely be a cedar fungus, as we basically live in a cedar forest. Who knew? The fungus spends the winter on th cedars, and leaps to the apples come summer.

I guess I basically have to hit them with Immunox in spring.
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