eBay column question!!
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eBay column question!!
I was looking thru eBay the other day and found a column already assembled for an ok price. I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't going to waste my money before I took the leap and bought it. What do you guys think??
https://www.ebay.com/itm/172351558622
https://www.ebay.com/itm/172351558622
Re: eBay column question!!
I wouldnt. You can make a better one for cheaper.
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Re: eBay column question!!
It will be okay for a pot still. They say it is a reflux still also and will double your ABV. Baloney. It will not doulble your ABV and is not a reflux still even if you stuff it.
But, for the money it is okay for a pot still. The liebig condenser is a bit on the small side and you will want double that size for a 15.5 keg.
But, for the money it is okay for a pot still. The liebig condenser is a bit on the small side and you will want double that size for a 15.5 keg.
Re: eBay column question!!
Liebig condenser is kinda small for a keg, hell for anything....
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Re: eBay column question!!
I gotta' agree with Yak & Grasshopper....the price is a little high, but not unreasonable:
2" 90* elbow ---> $12
2" x 3/4" reducer ---> $23
3/4" x 3/4" x 1" tee ---> $8 (2 req'd) --->$16
3/4" elbow ---> $0.80
3/4" copper union ---> $5.78
2" type M copper pipe (1.5 ft) ---> ($48/5 ft) ---> $16
3/4" type M copper pipe (5 ft) ---> $8.75
1" type M copper pipe (4 ft) ---> ($15/5 ft) ---> $12
Materials cost (excluding solder & flux) = $94.33
So, at $140 (ebay with free shipping?), there's $45 labor/profit that you could recoup.
And definitely, this is just a potstil.
You can do it....build one, that is. It's a great learning process for improvements and upgrades (which are sure to follow).
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2" 90* elbow ---> $12
2" x 3/4" reducer ---> $23
3/4" x 3/4" x 1" tee ---> $8 (2 req'd) --->$16
3/4" elbow ---> $0.80
3/4" copper union ---> $5.78
2" type M copper pipe (1.5 ft) ---> ($48/5 ft) ---> $16
3/4" type M copper pipe (5 ft) ---> $8.75
1" type M copper pipe (4 ft) ---> ($15/5 ft) ---> $12
Materials cost (excluding solder & flux) = $94.33
So, at $140 (ebay with free shipping?), there's $45 labor/profit that you could recoup.
And definitely, this is just a potstil.
You can do it....build one, that is. It's a great learning process for improvements and upgrades (which are sure to follow).
ss
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Re: eBay column question!!
Agree! +1 with SS (Damn good to see ya back SS!!)
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Re: eBay column question!!
Well I think y'all have talked me into getting the parts and building it myself. I have a little soldering experience having built a claw hammer still and that is my current rig only problem is it's one gallon (I know ) haha. Now my question is... what would be the best column height and Liebig length? I will put a union for easier cleaning and a future thumper and worm. I want to run it old school sometimes
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Riser height depends on if you like to bend over to pick up your collection jars from the floor. On a potstill (which I believe your Clawhammer is), the riser is usually only tall enough to improve your setup's geometry. That is, you won't really get the benefits of reflux from it.Bootlegger wrote:... what would be the best column height and Liebig length?
Now, if you add a reflux condenser then your column height (and packing) will affect the purity of your product. Higher/longer columns (ideally 20-25 diameters in height) will get you the potential for azeotropic alcohol (95-96%ABV).
But I think you're really aiming for potstill operation with the potential future operation with a doubler (thumper). In that case, you really don't even need a riser....you could attach the 90* elbow to the top of the boiler directly. It all depends on what you have planned...to run, to produce, and how you run it.
The bill of materials list I built up a few posts was really a price comparison to the ebay potstill you were asking about. I got prices from Menards website for the materials as a basis.
As for the Liebig size, there is a calculator on the parent site which helps you size the product condenser (for a potstill) considering the input power. If you know what you want to power with, you can calculate (approximately) how long to make it.
A general rule of thumb here in the forum is a 36" long 3/4" over 1/2" will handle up to 5.5kW. I would feel comfortable with powering up to 4.5kW at least with a 36" long Liebig. Perhaps the 5.5kW is workable if you have enough water flow. Certainly, plan to use efficiency design practices with it however. Read a few of the build threads to get an understanding of how to improve the efficiency.
Hope this "rambling" helps you decide what and how you want to build.
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Re: eBay column question!!
Thanks SS. The calculator helped!! I will be running a 15.5g keg potstill and I'm definitely going electric after reading jimbo's electric conversion thread. I will be running a 5500w element with a homemade SSR controller as well. Man I can't wait to get this still together so I can start making more likker than I can now with my current rig!!