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by Goose
Thu Oct 06, 2016 3:52 pm
Forum: Tried and True Recipes
Topic: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Replies: 2095
Views: 506829

Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Greenthorn wrote:This is how clear mine is when I run it.
Or should I say, how cloudy it is.
That looks pretty good to me! After how long start to finish ?
by Goose
Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:36 am
Forum: Tried and True Recipes
Topic: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Replies: 2095
Views: 506829

Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Whoever came up with the idea of acid in the recipe must have been using a very alkaline water supply... That's one reason why you shouldn't treat internet recipes/methods as gospel truth. Well I guess I considered that if posted on the "Tried and True" section of this forum that it was the gospel ...
by Goose
Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:49 pm
Forum: Tried and True Recipes
Topic: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Replies: 2095
Views: 506829

Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Goose, I leave out the lemon juice... Virtually always ferment to dry in under a week... But with other tweaks they usually finish sooner... I make this wash whenever I want to get a wash fermenting when I have limited time at my disposal... can I ask if you are distilling cloudy wash after just on...
by Goose
Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:01 pm
Forum: Tried and True Recipes
Topic: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Replies: 2095
Views: 506829

Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Thanks gents. I just tested pH and found it was 3.1. Holy hell. :esurprised: The new knowledge for me was the rapid pH drop on startup. Whoever came up with the idea of acid in the recipe must have been using a very alkaline water supply... I had to add 4 tsp Bicarb of soda to get the pH back above ...
by Goose
Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:49 pm
Forum: Tried and True Recipes
Topic: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Replies: 2095
Views: 506829

Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

...info I provided above my potential is 13.6%, close enough, however I ain't getting there and when done the residual wash still tastes sweet. FG is 1.010 after 3 weeks at 30 deg C and yeast has settled. Actually getting only a bit more than 10%.....Ideas welcome. Its a sugar wash...your pH crashe...
by Goose
Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:46 pm
Forum: Tried and True Recipes
Topic: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Replies: 2095
Views: 506829

Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Goose, I leave out the lemon juice... Virtually always ferment to dry in under a week... But with other tweaks they usually finish sooner... I make this wash whenever I want to get a wash fermenting when I have limited time at my disposal... ok, thanks, but can I ask with your water, what is the pH...
by Goose
Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:45 pm
Forum: Tried and True Recipes
Topic: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Replies: 2095
Views: 506829

Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

You mentioned ph earlier. Did you check it? I bet if you throw some baking soda in there or calcium carbonate it would fire up and start fizzing. Ph is a killer. Yes I mentioned that in my earlier post as well. 4.6 after lemon juice and 5.9 before. I see no reason to raise the pH with baking soda o...
by Goose
Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:37 pm
Forum: Tried and True Recipes
Topic: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Replies: 2095
Views: 506829

Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

how do you get to 14% ? 2 pounds of sugar per gallon gives a potential yield of 14.1% and a SG of 1.092... :clap: I'm not sure if you are taking the piss or if its arrogance of presumption that I have not added sufficient sugar or too much water to get to a potential of 14%. Basis info I provided a...
by Goose
Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:09 pm
Forum: Tried and True Recipes
Topic: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Replies: 2095
Views: 506829

Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Whats a good pH to stick to? Most sugar washes do well in the 4.2 - 5.2 range... Higher is ok but lower, not so much... Many members toss in a handful of crushed oyster shells, commonly fed to chickens, as they help maintain optimal pH by dissolving only when the wash goes acidic... Egg shells can ...
by Goose
Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:59 am
Forum: Novice Distillers
Topic: Whats best ?
Replies: 4
Views: 422

Re: Whats best ?

yeas I hear you and i know its about the end game, but there is something about the low wines starting point, I just feel better having clear low wines as opposed to cloudy.... see where I am coming from ?
by Goose
Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:02 am
Forum: Novice Distillers
Topic: Whats best ?
Replies: 4
Views: 422

Whats best ?

currently own a 2" 1500 w LM still and a 3000 w "trash can" type CM still. trying to figure the best way to use them, starting from a 12% sugar wash (I use birdwatchers). For last few runs, I have used the CM with the wash and it produces a product around 88% ABV crystal clear. I dilute this back do...
by Goose
Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:26 pm
Forum: Novice Distillers
Topic: How to make "Azeotrope" quality spirit - Compleat Distiller
Replies: 13
Views: 1422

Re: How to make "Azeotrope" quality spirit - Compleat Distil

Hey Goose...doesn't this pure product lack flavor or are you going after fuel? LOL Well it has a taste of course, and yes I do like it as a drink. Awesome straight from the freezer as shots, but dangerous as a mixer because its hard to distinguish in taste. Awesome as a neutral for fruit infusions ...
by Goose
Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:26 pm
Forum: Novice Distillers
Topic: Cuts, my 1st ever attempt tonight. Advice?
Replies: 12
Views: 534

Re: Cuts, my 1st ever attempt tonight. Advice?

"I also add 250g of sodium bicarbonate to 20 litres of 40% stripped wash" it converts ethyl acetate into ethanol and acetic acid. Ok and a quick lookup shows that the boiling point of ethyl acetate is 77.1 deg C while acetic acid is 118 deg C... so whatever would be carried over with heads now stay...
by Goose
Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:19 pm
Forum: Novice Distillers
Topic: How to make "Azeotrope" quality spirit - Compleat Distiller
Replies: 13
Views: 1422

Re: How to make "Azeotrope" quality spirit - Compleat Distil

Dont get your neck all sretched out Goose..... You never know when you might need a little KY to pull your head out of your ass. I dont think he meant any disrespect. Everybody does things a little different.... Welcome back. Stick around for awhile. :lolno: yeah yeah what makes you think I ever le...
by Goose
Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:15 pm
Forum: Novice Distillers
Topic: Cuts, my 1st ever attempt tonight. Advice?
Replies: 12
Views: 534

Re: Cuts, my 1st ever attempt tonight. Advice?

I don't pay much attention to temp when I'm doing a run. I certainly do... for spririt runs I use temperature to determine whether my column is stable at the outset by running at 100% reflux until its steady. I then crack the product valve to allow a product flow that is as high as possible to keep...
by Goose
Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:58 pm
Forum: Novice Distillers
Topic: Elusive 95%...not even close to it...help
Replies: 8
Views: 469

Re: Elusive 95%...not even close to it...help

geez targetting 95% from a wash straight up would be a challenge for most stills i would guess.

Have you tried taking your 85%, diluting this down to 40% and then running it through again ?
by Goose
Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:53 pm
Forum: Novice Distillers
Topic: How to make "Azeotrope" quality spirit - Compleat Distiller
Replies: 13
Views: 1422

Re: How to make "Azeotrope" quality spirit - Compleat Distil

I don't have the time to make make azeotrope, many do - I have never begrudged them but only wondered why is all. hey mr KY (Jelly?) you know it all dont you :econfused: As I see it Azeotrope is the ultimate target for ethanol concentration, but that doesnt necessarily define "purity" to me. I woul...
by Goose
Sat May 05, 2012 5:23 pm
Forum: Novice Distillers
Topic: Baking Soda
Replies: 286
Views: 141985

Re: Baking Soda

You get 85% from your stripping run?! Well yes. But its not a potstill, its one of those CM commercial units that I have posted on before. It works a treat to strip a wash very quickly (this one operates at 3KW) and it can churn out 90% with sufficient cooling. But its quality is not good enough wi...
by Goose
Fri May 04, 2012 6:52 pm
Forum: Novice Distillers
Topic: Baking Soda
Replies: 286
Views: 141985

Re: Baking Soda

from ancy novice who is clueless... I've been using 250g of baking soda to my low wines charge, in 20 litre runs. The "low" wines are in fact 85% abv from the "stripping" run which I dilute with tapwater to 40% abv. After adding the baking soda I can notice no discernible smell after dissolving it i...
by Goose
Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:22 pm
Forum: Tried and True Recipes
Topic: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Replies: 2095
Views: 506829

Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

SO this is going to be my first wash. Want to try it with both turbo and reg. yeast. Has anyone used the turbo on this recipe? and if so how long before it is ready. Yes I know I know turbo is not going to be my yeast of choice but I bought some and now reading lots of post about the better taste o...
by Goose
Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:42 pm
Forum: Column Builds
Topic: Better Operation of a Brew Shop CM Still (novice guide)
Replies: 77
Views: 99305

Re: Better Operation of a Brew Shop CM Still (novice guide)

Great post Kiwi, I wish I'd found this place before my impulse buy of one of these Essencia units about 6 months ago. I've since also got my hands also on a 2" x 4 ft LM column but the Essencia CM still has its uses. I just thought I'd share my experience and opinion here if anyone is smarter and le...
by Goose
Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:22 pm
Forum: Novice Distillers
Topic: So whats wrong with Turbo's
Replies: 41
Views: 2431

Re: So whats wrong with Turbo's

I'm a low poster here so far so maybe my opinion counts with equal lack of weight. Earlier I too also questioned the turbo disdain, after all, a molecule of ethanol is a molecule of ethanol right ? However, it is easy to forget that even if you produce a wash with a 14% by volume of these molecules ...
by Goose
Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:00 pm
Forum: Novice Distillers
Topic: Adding Tap Water Makes Spirit Cloudy _ Why?
Replies: 33
Views: 4840

Re: Adding Tap Water Makes Spirit Cloudy _ Why?

Anybody tried soaking lemon or other citrus peels in 180% + proof alcohol ? The alcohol extracts the colours and flavours magnificently, and you end up with a beautifully clear, but colourful and flavourful solution. However its too strong to drink, and if you try adding distilled water to 40% you i...
by Goose
Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:54 pm
Forum: Novice Distillers
Topic: multiple runs reflux still
Replies: 16
Views: 6505

Re: multiple runs reflux still

Sorry I'm not quite up on the techy lingo. Does that mean that your Essencia CM 3000w is a reflux still but that you are somehow using it like a pot still initially? no sir, I just run it in reflux mode and let it run its course. I could take out the packing and adjust the water cooling configurati...
by Goose
Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:42 pm
Forum: Novice Distillers
Topic: multiple runs reflux still
Replies: 16
Views: 6505

Re: multiple runs reflux still

I am reading a lot of posts that talk about the final product "smelling like water" and not needing filtering. This is what I am trying to achieve. I realise NOW that a pot still would probably have been the better way to start, and that a lot of the information refers to pot stills. Hey ajp. I'm a...
by Goose
Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:18 pm
Forum: Novice Distillers
Topic: first wash first run
Replies: 11
Views: 389

Re: first wash first run

Vanilla hint I have also had this issue, despite being frugal with the cut of hearts I take. I do suspect the cause has been a turbo yeast which did form part of the components that were fed to my spirit run. Therefore am going to redistill. As I believe its caused by the ester Ethyl Benzoate, I am...
by Goose
Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:02 am
Forum: Tried and True Recipes
Topic: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Replies: 2095
Views: 506829

Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Update SG below 1.00 on day 6. Conclusion is that 1 6 oz tin of tomato paste will suffice. Quite impressive for 6 kg sugar in a 25 litre wash. Will leave washes to settle for another week before distillation. I am definitely of the belief that the quality (and quantity) of the yeast used is of key i...
by Goose
Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:51 pm
Forum: Tried and True Recipes
Topic: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Replies: 2095
Views: 506829

Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

Update: Has been two weeks since I put 4 x 25 litres of this wash down, the SG came down from 1.09 to below 1.0 within a week. The final week was left to settle. Wash was reasonably clear, though there was a quite a thick layer of soft sludge at the bottom of the fermenters which fortunately settled...
by Goose
Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:32 pm
Forum: Tried and True Recipes
Topic: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Replies: 2095
Views: 506829

Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

I did recall somebody got a slight tomato smell/flavour hint in their low wines from a stripping run from this recipe. Has anybody experienced the same ? While I am very happy with the screaming performance of these washes I did use 2 x tins of paste so the wash still has a very pinkish tinge. I do...
by Goose
Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:47 am
Forum: Tried and True Recipes
Topic: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe
Replies: 2095
Views: 506829

Re: Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

I did recall somebody got a slight tomato smell/flavour hint in their low wines from a stripping run from this recipe. Has anybody experienced the same ? While I am very happy with the screaming performance of these washes I did use 2 x tins of paste so the wash still has a very pinkish tinge. I do ...