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by overoaked
Sun May 28, 2023 5:15 am
Forum: Rum
Topic: 2nd fermentation live muck addition
Replies: 19
Views: 1266

Re: 2nd fermentation live muck addition

Look up H. H. Cousins for another rabbit hole to go down. Now that is a deep rabbit hole thanks for that one. It has certainty given me ides on how I can increase flavor by esterification. From how it reads there is no real wrong way to make flavor in rum as long as it is not producing poisonous co...
by overoaked
Sat May 27, 2023 1:51 am
Forum: Rum
Topic: 2nd fermentation live muck addition
Replies: 19
Views: 1266

Re: 2nd fermentation live muck addition

Think I will stick to no pH control as reducing organic acids will result in lower ester levels in final product the opposite of what i want to achieve. The last rum run recently was a strip of 260lts with high % muck volume and long secondary fermentation 45 -50 days. So no cuts as of yet but the s...
by overoaked
Sat May 27, 2023 12:24 am
Forum: Rum
Topic: 2nd fermentation live muck addition
Replies: 19
Views: 1266

Re: 2nd fermentation live muck addition

Thanks for pdf link it was interesting to read the chapter on sugar syrups and confectionery. I could be missing something but from the pdf section on sugar refining it states they use lime (calcium oxides) to control pH by neutralizing organic acids. So to infer this to a muck pit / high ester rum ...
by overoaked
Fri May 26, 2023 11:13 am
Forum: Rum
Topic: 2nd fermentation live muck addition
Replies: 19
Views: 1266

Re: 2nd fermentation live muck addition

I've been reading up on homemade vinegar for this very reason. My understanding is that acetobacter converts ethanol to aceditc acid pretty slowly. I think that 4-6 week range is probably ideal as too much ethel acitate starts to smell/taste like solvent. Here's a good article on the use of cane ac...
by overoaked
Fri May 26, 2023 11:10 am
Forum: Rum
Topic: 2nd fermentation live muck addition
Replies: 19
Views: 1266

Re: 2nd fermentation live muck addition

No i don't control the pit pH. Only control measures put in place are a fine mesh bug net to keep out fruit flies and the like and a reduced opening to the air of 75mm. it was much easier to make a small bug net plug than to cover the entire top. Should I be controlling the pH? mite have to take a r...
by overoaked
Fri May 26, 2023 9:38 am
Forum: Rum
Topic: 2nd fermentation live muck addition
Replies: 19
Views: 1266

Re: 2nd fermentation live muck addition

My muck pit is a 220 ltr barrel kept at a 28 degrees centigrade using an aquarium heater. It is kept open to the air and has been inoculated with sugar cane and has fruit peal, fruit scraps and resistance starch added periodicity. The resistance starch was made by boiling potato and rapidly cooling ...
by overoaked
Fri May 26, 2023 5:52 am
Forum: Rum
Topic: 2nd fermentation live muck addition
Replies: 19
Views: 1266

Re: 2nd fermentation live muck addition

Sorry I should have stated it had been distilled via a cooling management column set to output 80% ABV. I have tried pot stilling it but found the tails come in far to early and a lot of product is lost. The column helps me hold back the tails for longer
by overoaked
Fri May 26, 2023 3:43 am
Forum: Rum
Topic: 2nd fermentation live muck addition
Replies: 19
Views: 1266

2nd fermentation live muck addition

just some documentation of current rum experiments. I have been experimenting using slatbushbill’s all molasses recipe. Procedure: • Clean fermentation until complete (no change to recipe) • Addition of live dunder / muck (varying % amounts of fermentation volume) • Secondary fermentation. (varying ...
by overoaked
Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:37 am
Forum: Fruit and grain season is here
Topic: Apple pulp reuse for more products
Replies: 9
Views: 2871

Re: Apple pulp reuse for more products

Update on the apple grappa rum dunder experiment Fermentation: Apple pulp re-hydrated with water and live aged rum dunder (muck) during primary fermentation using wild yeast and muck the pulp was pressed and sugar added along with DAP. Distillation equipment: pot still Distillation procedure: stripp...
by overoaked
Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:19 am
Forum: Fruit and grain season is here
Topic: Apple pulp reuse for more products
Replies: 9
Views: 2871

Apple pulp reuse for more products

So each year we grind and press apples for 4 products 1) Apple juice fresh and frozen 2) Alcoholic cider (wild yeast) 3) Apple brandy 4) Apple grappa (cant think of a better name) The apple grappa or so we call it cant think of a better name. Is the leftover pressings rehydrated and fermented on the...
by overoaked
Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:46 am
Forum: Whiskey
Topic: 100% corn accidental experiment
Replies: 3
Views: 1000

100% corn accidental experiment

When I usually make 100% corn wash it's done with enzymes. But on this occasion I was in a rush thought the enzymes had been added. But the packets had fallen down the back of the bench and had not noticed. In the morning checked for starch and it was positive. Now all the heat had gone. Options wou...
by overoaked
Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:24 am
Forum: Rum
Topic: Rum distillation equipment
Replies: 30
Views: 2703

Re: Rum distillation equipment

I wouldnt expect any wash made with 100% dunder to ferment without having some major PH issues. Yes I understand that dunder is acidic but at a pH of 3.5 I would still expect it to ferment as I have started this yeast off in beer with a starting pH of 3.1 and it fermented out dry just a little slowly
by overoaked
Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:44 am
Forum: Rum
Topic: Rum distillation equipment
Replies: 30
Views: 2703

Re: Rum distillation equipment

The next fermentation experiment is use fresh dunder as the 100% of liquid element instead of water and also do a mixed fermentation as before with muck That's very brave. I don't recall anyone else here doing that. Watch your pH and oxygenate well. A commercial rum trick I've heard about recently,...
by overoaked
Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:48 pm
Forum: Rum
Topic: Rum distillation equipment
Replies: 30
Views: 2703

Re: Rum distillation equipment

IMG_20220618_112353.jpg This is a picture of the last fermentation just before it was emptied. The lid was sealed but opened regularly. Mite try what I have on the muck pit as a lid next time 25mm bung hole covered with a very fine bug net to keep the fruit fly's out. Had a bit of an infestation once
by overoaked
Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:51 am
Forum: Rum
Topic: Rum distillation equipment
Replies: 30
Views: 2703

Re: Rum distillation equipment

Doing a secondary ferment using aged muck is what I've been doing for the last yr or so.. I don't use fresh dunder in my ferment any more, preferring doing a secondary instead.. I do add some wash to the spirit run instead of dunder or muck.. I only do the secondary for 14 days, never went 21 days....
by overoaked
Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:03 am
Forum: Rum
Topic: Rum distillation equipment
Replies: 30
Views: 2703

Re: Rum distillation equipment

My current plan is to use my CM still with a packed column but tune the dephlegmator to output spirit in the 80-85% range after reading what others have done on plated columns. So has anybody tried this and what where your outcomes I do my rum ( panela/fancy molasses/with secondary fermentation ) u...
by overoaked
Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:34 am
Forum: Rum
Topic: Rum distillation equipment
Replies: 30
Views: 2703

Re: Rum distillation equipment

Time to report back on progress. Run 1: still charge 25Lts @ 45% of existing rum combined with 15Lts of aged muck. Results odd astringent flavour gone and some nice tropical fruit hints Run2: as above but muck replaced with water. Results odd astringent flavour gone and much less tropical fruit Have...
by overoaked
Mon Jun 06, 2022 1:28 am
Forum: Rum
Topic: Rum distillation equipment
Replies: 30
Views: 2703

Re: Rum distillation equipment

There is your problem ....no copper..........use plenty, the more the merrier. IMG_19000401_153810.jpg IMG_20220606_015118.jpg Equipment set up will be column from the CM still packed with copper mess with this pot head on top. This gives me max surface area of copper. Then rerun existing rum. Spli...
by overoaked
Sun Jun 05, 2022 1:05 pm
Forum: Rum
Topic: Rum distillation equipment
Replies: 30
Views: 2703

Re: Rum distillation equipment

Thanks for the reply. That is a good point I didn't have any copper in boiler / vapour path. I mite try re-distilling it. Options for set up are 1. with the the column I use for reflux packed (copper mesh) and a pot head on top of that. 2.use the copper dephlegmator directly on top of the boiler wit...
by overoaked
Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:32 am
Forum: Rum
Topic: Rum distillation equipment
Replies: 30
Views: 2703

Rum distillation equipment

Hi I have been trying to perfect a heavy Jamaican style rum and have been using a 50Ltr keg pot still. But have been getting an odd off taste coming through from my reading this is rum tails smearing even when running it very slowly. My current plan is to use my CM still with a packed column but tun...
by overoaked
Sun Jun 05, 2022 8:09 am
Forum: Novice Distillers
Topic: Just Post a Pick of your Rig
Replies: 432
Views: 233954

Re: Just Post a Pick of your Rig

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by overoaked
Tue May 17, 2022 9:09 am
Forum: Rum
Topic: Show us your dunder pit
Replies: 104
Views: 30145

Re: Show us your dunder pit

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About 1 year old it has has raw sugar cane and banana peals added
by overoaked
Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:27 am
Forum: ** Welcome Center **
Topic: Hi all
Replies: 1
Views: 189

Hi all

Long time lurker first time poster. My interest in home distilling started when I was just a kid helping my father make beer, wine and spirits. Currently have a few projects on the go and will post in the relevant sections of the forum in due course.