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by manu de hanoi
Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:01 am
Forum: Column Builds
Topic: Vacuum Still, Batch reflux design- A starting point?
Replies: 95
Views: 12163

Re: Vacuum Still, Batch reflux design- A starting point?

- a condenser doesnt reduce the pressure by a fixed amount, a condenser reduces the pressure until there is a balance between temp , power input and surface area. - the volume of the still is considered negligible, because the volume of vapor is 1000 time the volume of liquid and because there is en...
by manu de hanoi
Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:26 pm
Forum: Column Builds
Topic: Vacuum Still, Batch reflux design- A starting point?
Replies: 95
Views: 12163

Re: Vacuum Still, Batch reflux design- A starting point?

That's an interesting idea, Manu. I suspect you would get whatever vapor is available when you slam the condenser on, but not much more. It will quickly stablize at a pressure/temp below boiling. it can not because the still is still being heated, so it will keep on boiling And you've benn letting ...
by manu de hanoi
Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:44 pm
Forum: Research and Theory
Topic: Geometry/ math oddity
Replies: 4
Views: 741

Re: Geometry/ math oddity

between all shapes at equal perimeter, the circle is the shape with the most area.
by manu de hanoi
Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:09 am
Forum: Research and Theory
Topic: Adding a coil to the bottem of a reflux rig
Replies: 2
Views: 633

Re: Adding a coil to the bottem of a reflux rig

So I was running my LM/VM this weekend and I got to thinking. All the alcohol that's being refluxed is just being returned right back to the boiler, or in LWTCS's case back to a doubler. What if a coil was installed at the bottom of the column to flash off the alcohol before it gets back to the boi...
by manu de hanoi
Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:51 am
Forum: Column Builds
Topic: Easy guide to make a coil condenser
Replies: 7
Views: 2110

Re: Easy guide to make a coil condenser

so the idea is to use compressed water right ?
by manu de hanoi
Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:45 am
Forum: Column Builds
Topic: Vacuum Still, Batch reflux design- A starting point?
Replies: 95
Views: 12163

Re: Vacuum Still, Batch reflux design- A starting point?

the energy savings are quite small
by manu de hanoi
Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:57 pm
Forum: Column Builds
Topic: Vacuum Still, Batch reflux design- A starting point?
Replies: 95
Views: 12163

Re: Vacuum Still, Batch reflux design- A starting point?

Video? I am sorry, I missed a video link. Please send that to me and I will watch it before comenting further. Vapor speed can be calculated from watts and collumn size so I guess watts and surface area is the information necessary. Have you done a test using this theory? Closing valves, cooling a ...
by manu de hanoi
Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:53 am
Forum: Column Builds
Topic: Vacuum Still, Batch reflux design- A starting point?
Replies: 95
Views: 12163

Re: Vacuum Still, Batch reflux design- A starting point?

no, it's annoying people have such a hard time understanding that when the still is pressurised the valve opens just like any safety valve. Don’t get your nickers in a wad. I wasn’t trying to pick a fight there. I think its annoying when people wont think outside their own little world. I like the ...
by manu de hanoi
Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:42 am
Forum: Column Builds
Topic: Vacuum Still, Batch reflux design- A starting point?
Replies: 95
Views: 12163

Re: Vacuum Still, Batch reflux design- A starting point?

Ok, the step that isn't clear, is; Whats the benifit of doing it that way, when your initial boiling point is the normal temp? I understand you are creating a vacuum by vapor colapse in a closed system, but the economic benifits are mute if you have to heat the wash up to nomal atmospheric boiling ...
by manu de hanoi
Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:28 am
Forum: Column Builds
Topic: Vacuum Still, Batch reflux design- A starting point?
Replies: 95
Views: 12163

Re: Vacuum Still, Batch reflux design- A starting point?

Manu, Creating a shock vacuum in a closed system before continuing with distillation is an interesting idea. The problem I see with your idea is that you would have to have a perfect sealed system yes or assume that a greater contraction than expansion can be created and maintained you need this an...
by manu de hanoi
Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:11 am
Forum: Column Builds
Topic: Vacuum Still, Batch reflux design- A starting point?
Replies: 95
Views: 12163

Re: Vacuum Still, Batch reflux design- A starting point?

it would take too many pics. Step 1 you boil water/wash in the still under normal pressure step 2 because the steam builds up in the still , the still becomes pressurized step 3 because the still is pressurized, the one way valve (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Check_valve" onclick="window.o...
by manu de hanoi
Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:40 pm
Forum: Column Builds
Topic: Vacuum Still, Batch reflux design- A starting point?
Replies: 95
Views: 12163

Re: Vacuum Still, Batch reflux design- A starting point?

the one way valve just let the steam go out but no air in. It's basically a rubber plug on a spring. No human control is needed
by manu de hanoi
Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:12 am
Forum: Column Builds
Topic: Vacuum Still, Batch reflux design- A starting point?
Replies: 95
Views: 12163

Re: Vacuum Still, Batch reflux design- A starting point?

Did I mention the vacuum pump was optional ? All you need is a one way valve with a strong spring and a good airtight rubber joint, boil water/wash in the still , when it has exited the still through the valve, turn on the condenser. Vacuum is pulled instantly. As a reminder, in my design you only n...
by manu de hanoi
Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:57 am
Forum: Column Builds
Topic: 2" VM Design Question
Replies: 14
Views: 1261

Re: 2" VM Design Question

I suggest spp instead of rashing rings for neutral
by manu de hanoi
Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:27 pm
Forum: Column Builds
Topic: Cleaning up the Column Distillation forum stickies
Replies: 2
Views: 1248

Re: Cleaning up the Column Distillation forum stickies

+10 the stickies take half of the screen.
by manu de hanoi
Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:32 am
Forum: Column Builds
Topic: Stepped Column
Replies: 16
Views: 1929

Re: Stepped Column

diameter would go narrower to towards the top, and plates would be shallower
by manu de hanoi
Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:37 am
Forum: Column Builds
Topic: Stepped Column
Replies: 16
Views: 1929

Re: Stepped Column

you may be onto something. If you check the design of industrial columns the plates depth/ column diameter varies with height. I could never quite figure out why, but that's how they did it and perhaps still do.
by manu de hanoi
Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:52 am
Forum: Continuous Stripping stills
Topic: Continuous Still Design
Replies: 9
Views: 3945

Re: Continuous Still Design

I've been wanting to build a new still for quite sometime and have been reading up on continuous stills. That seems to be the direction I would like to go, but I am unsure of the process behind them. I have read the article on the main site a few hundred times. How does the mash that is dripping do...
by manu de hanoi
Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:45 am
Forum: Column Builds
Topic: Still design to be checked for workability
Replies: 7
Views: 2191

Re: Still design to be checked for workability

I would suggest you get a better design to build. This one looks like someone is trying to combine a outdated CM still design with a VM still with out a valve. And no I wouldn't suggest adding a valve to it. Not as it sits anyway. The two condenser tubes would be to inefficient to be used for a VM....
by manu de hanoi
Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:00 am
Forum: Column Builds
Topic: DIY spiral-prismatic packing
Replies: 18
Views: 15679

Re: DIY spiral-prismatic packing

hi, Copper is expensive here in VN (but stainless steel is cheap) that's one reason, other reason is that copper corrodes and that given the expense of making SPP, you may not want that other reason is that copper is soft and that it prolly wouldn't stand the tension at a similar thickness - I'm usi...
by manu de hanoi
Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:31 pm
Forum: Research and Theory
Topic: Scorching with electric element
Replies: 46
Views: 7536

Re: Scorching with electric element

do we really need that in the research and theory section ? https://www.google.com/search?rls=en-us&q=site:http://homedistiller.org/forum&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&rls=en-us&source=hp&q=site:http%3A%2F%2Fhomedistiller.org%2Fforum+grain+scorching&pbx=1&...
by manu de hanoi
Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:26 am
Forum: Pot Distillation/Thumper and Design
Topic: vacuum pot still
Replies: 2
Views: 1262

Re: vacuum pot still

Very cool. I have always been interested in vacuum distillation, really shows how vapor pressure and pressure go hand in hand. I've never seen a full sized still like that outside a lab before. Very neat. What capacity does it hold/you run it at? Hi , sorry for the late answer, yes it's quite amazi...
by manu de hanoi
Wed Oct 19, 2011 5:41 am
Forum: Pot Distillation/Thumper and Design
Topic: vacuum pot still
Replies: 2
Views: 1262

vacuum pot still

for essential oils, delicate fragrances etc....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erioS6G-kl8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
by manu de hanoi
Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:41 am
Forum: Off-Topic Discussion
Topic: Stepping down
Replies: 55
Views: 4316

Re: Stepping down

Thanks for your support RD .
by manu de hanoi
Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:24 am
Forum: Column Builds
Topic: Gonna get a beating for this.....
Replies: 40
Views: 3866

Re: Gonna get a beating for this.....

The newest 444 and 426 ss grades are cheaper than the 300s and more resistant than the 430 used in exhaust pipes
by manu de hanoi
Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:42 am
Forum: Column Builds
Topic: arc still information blackout ?
Replies: 6
Views: 1585

Re: arc still information blackout ?

i've been looking around the forum looking for info on the ARC still, but keep hitting a brick wall when it comes to actual designs and plans. i understand the person who seems to have designed it is selling the plans in a book at $25 a pop. and to access a forum with all the info, you have to buy ...
by manu de hanoi
Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:51 pm
Forum: Condensers/Cooling Methods
Topic: ??Winding a coil??
Replies: 64
Views: 20367

Re: ??Winding a coil??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl8qfu-ojTQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

-45C temp for freezing .....
by manu de hanoi
Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:42 am
Forum: ** Welcome Center **
Topic: Hello and needs Help!
Replies: 21
Views: 1614

Re: Hello and needs Help!

I love to check once in a while to see what's the latest in distilling technology. "Turbo stomper", "Double banger" or "valved reflux" ? That's a tough choice, fortunately the owner elaborates : http://turbostomper.com/valved%20reflux%20still.htm If you have ever heard ...
by manu de hanoi
Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:28 pm
Forum: Research and Theory
Topic: Condenser control still
Replies: 134
Views: 23039

Re: Condenser control still

HookLine wrote:Manu

Have you tried a stainless tube coil?
Cant coil normal tube to this diameter and dont have access to crimped tube
EDIT: it's actually feasible to coil ss tube to this diameter with sand filling, but that's a tough build
by manu de hanoi
Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:20 pm
Forum: Research and Theory
Topic: Condenser control still
Replies: 134
Views: 23039

Re: Condenser control still

BTW it seems that in the CC design (and everywhere there is a copper reflux coil) most of the condensation occurs at the tip of the copper coil. Because the condensation is not evenly distributed along the coil that results in not so good reflux control.
I am still looking for a good, easy coil design