NEW REFLUX CONDENSER DESIGN

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NEW REFLUX CONDENSER DESIGN

Post by Andygr85 » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:36 pm

I apologize for the ruthless click bait. I am also sorry if someone else has come up with this design. I have trolled these pages endlessly and have not seen it. I am new to the forum and as such I expect disregard and vitriol. Please be kind, for I am merely a babe among wolves. (Or at least a babe among occasionally rude adult men who are probably less kind as the morning grows closer)

Idea is a hollow cold finger filled loosely with copper mesh and surrounded by the same mesh.
1-1/2" outer jacket
3/4" inner jacket
2-1/2" column
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Re: NEW REFLUX CONDENSER DESIGN

Post by rad14701 » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:03 pm

It's called a "concentric"... See the link in my signature for an example... Unless your idea is different for some reason...

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Re: NEW REFLUX CONDENSER DESIGN

Post by Andygr85 » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:42 pm

My design was
a piece of 3/4 in copper inside
a piece of 1-1/2"
Brazed the gaps shut because it's easier to fill large gaps with brazing rod than it is to do with solder.
I think my design is more of a "hollow cold finger" suspended like a normal reflux coil. An empty tube jacketed with water suspended in a larger column.
If I'm being stupid and can't see that this is the same idea just say the word. You know better than I do on this subject.
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Re: NEW REFLUX CONDENSER DESIGN

Post by Lyonsie » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:52 pm

He already did.
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But then i found out i was mistaken.

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Re: NEW REFLUX CONDENSER DESIGN

Post by Uncle Jesse » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:59 pm

Not sure I ever saw brazing rod used to make a column before.

Unique design or not, lets see how it works.
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Re: NEW REFLUX CONDENSER DESIGN

Post by Andygr85 » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:31 pm

The plans that your signature links to are not what I had in mind @rad14701. My idea was to replace a wrapped double helix coil at the top of a VM or LM COLUMN. Does it have enough surface area? Its 9" long and will be surrounded by copper mesh, open to the atmosphere on top.
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Re: NEW REFLUX CONDENSER DESIGN

Post by rad14701 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:14 am

Andygr85 wrote:The plans that your signature links to are not what I had in mind @rad14701. My idea was to replace a wrapped double helix coil at the top of a VM or LM COLUMN. Does it have enough surface area? Its 9" long and will be surrounded by copper mesh, open to the atmosphere on top.
So you're thinking a large hollow "cold finger"...??? Pretty much just a concentric suspended in a column then...

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Re: NEW REFLUX CONDENSER DESIGN

Post by Andygr85 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:42 pm

a concentric is a whole column setup with its own type of collection. My idea is just a reflux coil. Like I said in the title. To be used atop a VM or LM column Maybe I should draw it out more clearly.
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Re: NEW REFLUX CONDENSER DESIGN

Post by skow69 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:28 pm

It looks like your tube would have about 64 sq. in. of cold surface. That should be comparable to a coil of 1/4 inch tubing 7 ft. long. So you're in the ballpark. Now try it and let us know how it works.
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Re: NEW REFLUX CONDENSER DESIGN

Post by rad14701 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:50 pm

Andygr85 wrote:a concentric is a whole column setup with its own type of collection. My idea is just a reflux coil. Like I said in the title. To be used atop a VM or LM column Maybe I should draw it out more clearly.
Ummm... No... I have concentric reflux condensers that can be swapped out with each other or replaced with a column section and a wound copper reflux condenser... Not sure where you got the idea that a concentric is an entire still... I do also have a concentric head that has collection and takeoff combined with it as well, however... That head can function in either pot still or reflux mode...

Had you checked the link in my signature, as was suggested in my previous post, you'd have seen it... HERE is a link to where I first posted straight condenser pics...

Edited to add: I just used my concentric reflux column to produce neutral spirits from some Barley, Oat, Wheat Bran low wines that I stripped earlier today...

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