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Thought I would share. Today I bought some Ceramic Fibre Blanket for the purposes of insulating stuff. Don't like glass fibre.

The roll was 13mm x 610mm x 14.6m long (0.5 x 24" x 48') and in US$ terms cost the royal sum of $42.00. This will double insulate all my stuff giving me 25mm wall thickness on my columns risers, 30l and 50l keg along with my two 50l Wash Drums. Thought it was a great deal.

I was advised to still use gloves for the odd stray splinter. Now Need to find me someone to roll some galvanized protectors / tunes to enclose the Ceramic Blanket.

The density is 1250g per m2 at 13mm thick.

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Just wondering if anyone has used wood lagging to insulate still components? That is what I am planning on using.
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Be careful with that stuff, ceramic fibres are seriously bad for your lungs.

Cut it outdoors, wear a mask, and keep it covered with something to stop fibres coming off it during use.
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amh71 wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:20 am Be careful with that stuff, ceramic fibres are seriously bad for your lungs.

Cut it outdoors, wear a mask, and keep it covered with something to stop fibres coming off it during use.
Glass is not much different, did not realise it was as bad as that. There were no warnings on the material data sheet and I bought it from my firned company, he never mentioned anything other that waer gloves :esurprised: .

Will take precautions thanks.
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The ceramic fiber has a high heat resistance (much more than glass wool and rock wool). Handle it safely and a protective mask. The outside you could live in various ways, a suitable aluminum adhesive tape, a plastic tube etc. The solutions could be many. I don't use insulation and for the moment I'm fine, but if I should never use it, I would think of a system that allows you to remove and insert themselves, a kind of separable jacket to allow cleaning / maintenance.
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Why not Reflectix?
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It will be an excellent insulator, my glass kilns are barely warm outside when 800C inside.

Any ceramic/glass when powdered or spun into fibre can do a lot of damage to your lungs, don't think they are able to remove them so the scaring builds up. Just keep it covered to stop fibres rubbing off and you'll have no problems.
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Butch27 wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:13 am Just wondering if anyone has used wood lagging to insulate still components? That is what I am planning on using.
I have seen at least one boiler covered with wood, but I'll be darned if I can remember who did it.
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i am still of the opinion that at least for the column, the local newspaper is excelent. i even wrap my rifle's silencer in that. for the boiler and fermenters a camping mattress works fine.
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amh71 wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:50 am I have seen at least one boiler covered with wood, but I'll be darned if I can remember who did it.
From memory there are a few around , Myles may have been one of them.
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Saltbush Bill wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:35 pm
amh71 wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:50 am I have seen at least one boiler covered with wood, but I'll be darned if I can remember who did it.
From memory there are a few around , Myles may have been one of them.
Badmotivator had one. Not sure it counts as insulated, but it's damned pretty!

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One that I saw recently, thermal blanket covered in wood.

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Rather sexy :thumbup:
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Couple more examples ......, both examples from boiler build threads on Emptyglasse's Forum.
This one by Aussiedownunder01, insulated with insulation wool, then clad in timber.
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And this by fairly unique one by YHB.
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Objectively those wooden coated drums have a great design, they seem part of a decor, really beautiful, but if the heating is electric I think there are more practical ways to perform that hobby level job, for example the outer casing could be done with A plastic barrel provided that the insulator is therefore effective is well from heat. For an even simpler thing, a real wool blanket I think would do the same (always speak of electric heating, non gas)
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Demy . Agree that a woollen blanket on its own does a good job of keeping the heat in an electric boiler . But those wood clad boilers sure do a pretty job of holding the blanket in place ..be it Wool
or fibre glass wool
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For me the wood will be the insulator. I'm sure that fiberglass, ceramic wool or reflectix would provide more R-value but some of them are also somewhat messy and may be hazardous to your lungs when disturbed. Thanks to all those that have posted pics.
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Stole a doona (quilt thingy) my wife was going to throw out.
Should be fine for keeping something warm, sometime.
Copped a bit of grumpiness.

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kflex PE pipe insulation works for my 2" columns.
13mm x 51mm slips over nice & snug($12aud/m)
sold by clark rubber up to 2" only
i've seen it on other sites up to 4"
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