Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
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Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
Always wanted a metal lathe, there's no logical reason, since I don't need one to make money
Now that I'm retired, figured it was time to start doing the illogical
So, I bought a 1956 South Bend model 9A metal lathe
Tried to post some pics, but failed
Now that I'm retired, figured it was time to start doing the illogical
So, I bought a 1956 South Bend model 9A metal lathe
Tried to post some pics, but failed
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Re: Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
like the distilling rabbit hole wasn't deep enough.
did you get any tooling with it?
did you get any tooling with it?
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Very nice. It's always fun making chips
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What both of them guys said . There are thousands of tutorials on YouTube to learn how to use a lathe . I have a 16x50 (?) lathe and the milling machine that Mel Forbes started Ultra Light Arms with .
You can spin metal for funnels and other projects , make custom copper joints , blanks for wooden spoons , spin top toys for children and adults . Your imagination is your limitation .
Sharpening tool bits is the most challenging task I have yet to master .
Grizzly Equipment is a great source of supplies and info . Their tech staff is great .
You can spin metal for funnels and other projects , make custom copper joints , blanks for wooden spoons , spin top toys for children and adults . Your imagination is your limitation .
Sharpening tool bits is the most challenging task I have yet to master .
Grizzly Equipment is a great source of supplies and info . Their tech staff is great .
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Re: Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
+1
Hope it is in good condition, solid bed, with some good tools..
Just the nice size to start making copper ferrules, brass sight glass
Mars
PS.. when you get tire of it.. just PM me and I will pick it up..
Hope it is in good condition, solid bed, with some good tools..
Just the nice size to start making copper ferrules, brass sight glass
Mars
PS.. when you get tire of it.. just PM me and I will pick it up..
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Re: Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
Dig deeper to get away from the problemcob wrote:like the distilling rabbit hole wasn't deep enough.
Yes, still parts will be made on the lathe
Didn't get a 4 jaw chuck or a steady rest.cob wrote:did you get any tooling with it?
But got the factory base cabinet, a full set of collets, and half a bucket of things I might need
The paint is poor, but everything is lubed, with no rust and no discernable wear, I'd say the lathe hasn't had to work for a living
Or been used in school.
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Re: Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
Paint is just a new dress on an old whore . Cosmetics . What she will put out is where your interests lie . These are precision machines . They are pretty hard to damage beyond recovery .
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Re: Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
Truckinbutch, I hear what your saying
Guess I'll take a crash course in machining, Won't be the first time I started a new learning experience
Now I'm looking for a cheap milling machine and a surface grinder
Guess I'll take a crash course in machining, Won't be the first time I started a new learning experience
Now I'm looking for a cheap milling machine and a surface grinder
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Re: Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
I see a copy of the Machinery's Handbook in your future.
be water my friend
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BOY, HOWDY ! If I could memorize all that is included in my copy I would be the smartest man in the world .cob wrote:I see a copy of the Machinery's Handbook in your future.
That ship sailed long ago . It's still my 'Go to' reference guide for anything I wish to do .
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Re: Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
Used 3 phase with a cheap converter are much cheaper than 110 or 220 machines .shadylane wrote:Truckinbutch, I hear what your saying
Guess I'll take a crash course in machining, Won't be the first time I started a new learning experience
Now I'm looking for a cheap milling machine and a surface grinder
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Re: Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
Don't give up on the pics! I'm excited for you!
But what the heck do I know.....I am still learning.
Re: Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
Sweet machine, shady.
That's right about the triple phase. It's way more efficient. All you need is a three phase motor bigger than the one you want to drive.Truckinbutch wrote: Used 3 phase with a cheap converter are much cheaper than 110 or 220 machines .
Distilling at 110f and 75 torr.
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Re: Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
Watch ebay and craigslist for a 4 jaw chuck, steady and follow rests Lots of em out there...
Cast chuck will be fine as it's a fairly low rpm machine...
The list is just starting... indicators... dial calipers.... micrometers... dykem.... emory cloth.... bench grinder... bar stock... band saw....
You dont know how big the hole can get... but it's worth it in most cases.
Have fun life is short
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Cast chuck will be fine as it's a fairly low rpm machine...
The list is just starting... indicators... dial calipers.... micrometers... dykem.... emory cloth.... bench grinder... bar stock... band saw....
You dont know how big the hole can get... but it's worth it in most cases.
Have fun life is short
FS
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Re: Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
Nice I have used that exact lathe I believe.
Does it have the threading attachment / option on it? If so pickup a nice micrometer and set of 3 wires for measuring threads.
As mentioned above a 4 jaw chuck is really helpful watch and pickup one.. it can be frustrating at first to setup things true though. Also check your 3 jaw... most are not perfectly centering. So be aware.
Start grinding youw own tool bits. will save you a ton!
You have a parting tool with it? Very good tool to have also!
If you setup with sharp tools and the right speed and feed, you can get close to a mirror finish on most items.
Also check the bed for wear. Ofend the carrage drops due to bead wear close to the 3 jaw. Ta a piece of saw 2" and take a cut on it.. and measure both ends. Shoudl be hte same but often ner the 3 jaw is .0005 to .003 larger... basically as the tool bit drops...the diameter gets larger.
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Does it have the threading attachment / option on it? If so pickup a nice micrometer and set of 3 wires for measuring threads.
As mentioned above a 4 jaw chuck is really helpful watch and pickup one.. it can be frustrating at first to setup things true though. Also check your 3 jaw... most are not perfectly centering. So be aware.
Start grinding youw own tool bits. will save you a ton!
You have a parting tool with it? Very good tool to have also!
If you setup with sharp tools and the right speed and feed, you can get close to a mirror finish on most items.
Also check the bed for wear. Ofend the carrage drops due to bead wear close to the 3 jaw. Ta a piece of saw 2" and take a cut on it.. and measure both ends. Shoudl be hte same but often ner the 3 jaw is .0005 to .003 larger... basically as the tool bit drops...the diameter gets larger.
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Re: Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
Nice find. I would like to add a word of caution. A lathe is not forgiving at all and can cause serious trauma in an instant. As an engineer and tool and die maker of over 20 years I have seen it first hand. A friend of mine with over 30 years experience got his arm torn off at the elbow. It happened so fast that his arm flew out of the lathe and hit him in the face and almost broke his jaw. 2 other guys in the same shop lost a finger on separate occasions. It's a great tool to have, just be careful.
Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.
Re: Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
Nice shady.. that is exactly like the unit I used in the past. Could easily make a 4" plate setup with that...
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Re: Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
And that's a fact.squeezins wrote:Nice find. I would like to add a word of caution. A lathe is not forgiving at all and can cause serious trauma in an instant.
Ordered a new flat drive belt today, Hope I got the length right.
The old one was stretched out too far and slipping, It measured 64"
I spent hours on the internet searching for the belt size and never found it.
So I guessed and ordered one 62" long.
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Re: Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
Was there no adjustment in the lower part of the cabinet...a turnbuckle jam nut arrangement on the pivoting plate?
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Re: Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
Belts for it on ebay...
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Re: Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
It was adjusted as far as it could go. Actually it was adjusted farther than it could go without the belt rubbing on were the turnbuckle attaches to the pivotFullySilenced wrote:Was there no adjustment in the lower part of the cabinet...a turnbuckle jam nut arrangement on the pivoting plate?
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Is it a glued or laced belt? you could shorten the belt you have maybe....
but there are belts on ebay .... lots of em...
but there are belts on ebay .... lots of em...
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Re: Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
The old belt was fabric/rubber with metal clips and a pin.
So I could have shortened it, fairly easy. but It was starting to get crack's in it.
I just got an email saying the new belt has been shipped, so it will be here in a day or 2
I'm also playing with a serpentine belt, that I've cut and attempting to glue back together
So I could have shortened it, fairly easy. but It was starting to get crack's in it.
I just got an email saying the new belt has been shipped, so it will be here in a day or 2
I'm also playing with a serpentine belt, that I've cut and attempting to glue back together
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Re: Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
I don't savvy metal working near as much as I do wood working. Couple of years back I was scouring the Internet for information about wood lathes. Not the motor powered kind of wood lathe but the medieval kind. One of those projects that I haven't followed up on yet.
By accident I once stumbled upon or into a SCA convention that was being held way out in the woods. Surrounded by weirdos on all sides I walked down this trail leading to a cluster of tents. Working under a tree was this old hippy dude in period clothes turning out a bowling pin- from a piece of firewood. His setup was pretty simple, just a chair, a wooden sawhorse and an overhead 20# fiberglass archery bow.
http://www.turningtools.co.uk/history2/ ... 395-lg.gif" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
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People seem to use the terms “pole lathe” or “bow lathe” interchangeable although there is a difference. There used to be or might still be groups or clubs of these rustic wood turners who stage outdoor gatherings once or twice a year (especially in England).
By accident I once stumbled upon or into a SCA convention that was being held way out in the woods. Surrounded by weirdos on all sides I walked down this trail leading to a cluster of tents. Working under a tree was this old hippy dude in period clothes turning out a bowling pin- from a piece of firewood. His setup was pretty simple, just a chair, a wooden sawhorse and an overhead 20# fiberglass archery bow.
http://www.turningtools.co.uk/history2/ ... 395-lg.gif" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
http://vikinganswerlady.com/graphics/pa ... eLathe.gif" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
People seem to use the terms “pole lathe” or “bow lathe” interchangeable although there is a difference. There used to be or might still be groups or clubs of these rustic wood turners who stage outdoor gatherings once or twice a year (especially in England).
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the metal pin clips could in most cases be re-purposed and usually instead of a metal pin a piece of rawhide lacing .... a really hard stiff piece is used as a pin...
I didn't see a live center hopefully you have one and some center drills as well
Did you get any Armstrong style tool holders for the tool post? Usually that lathe uses a 1/4" holder up to a 5/16 square tool bit... and maybe 1/2" or 5/8" tall parting tools and holders..
Lathes are not a dangerous as depicted in the earlier posts if you use basic safety and common sense.... just don't leave a chuck wrench in the chuck, or grab the chips with your hands use a chip brush... wear safety glasses and no gloves or loose clothing while your running the lathe... spinning metal and fingers don't mingle very well the metal always wins...
Google lathe safety... or i can find you some links if need be....
found an old video almost made about the lathe you have...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5pjWkJ9ewU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn9HJfy33eA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow more modern video on an old style flat belt lathe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST3oTyGhck4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow very basic lathe safety
Threw this one in to show you a keyways can be cut or even a gear if the need really arises and you want to go to the effort. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qta82yOtUk4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow cutting a spur gear
there are tons of videos on youtube..
FS
I didn't see a live center hopefully you have one and some center drills as well
Did you get any Armstrong style tool holders for the tool post? Usually that lathe uses a 1/4" holder up to a 5/16 square tool bit... and maybe 1/2" or 5/8" tall parting tools and holders..
Lathes are not a dangerous as depicted in the earlier posts if you use basic safety and common sense.... just don't leave a chuck wrench in the chuck, or grab the chips with your hands use a chip brush... wear safety glasses and no gloves or loose clothing while your running the lathe... spinning metal and fingers don't mingle very well the metal always wins...
Google lathe safety... or i can find you some links if need be....
found an old video almost made about the lathe you have...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5pjWkJ9ewU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn9HJfy33eA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow more modern video on an old style flat belt lathe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST3oTyGhck4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow very basic lathe safety
Threw this one in to show you a keyways can be cut or even a gear if the need really arises and you want to go to the effort. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qta82yOtUk4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow cutting a spur gear
there are tons of videos on youtube..
FS
Do it Safely read The safety section: http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=33
New Distillers Reading: http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=46
Hookline's Basic Still Designs: http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... =1&t=18873
New Distillers Reading: http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=46
Hookline's Basic Still Designs: http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... =1&t=18873
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Re: Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
For flat belting I used round baler belts that had been changed out due to wear or made my own from leather . Metal pin lacing or rawhide both work well to join belt ends .
A lathe like you have will work wood as well as metal .
You are going to have a serious dilemma with time management between two such engrossing hobbies as stillin and machine shop work . Don't ask me how I know this .
A lathe like you have will work wood as well as metal .
You are going to have a serious dilemma with time management between two such engrossing hobbies as stillin and machine shop work . Don't ask me how I know this .
If you ain't the lead dog in the team , the scenery never changes . Ga Flatwoods made my avatar and I want to thank him for that .
Don't drink water , fish fornicate in it .
Don't drink water , fish fornicate in it .
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Re: Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
I've got a couple live and dead centers. One of the live centers must fit inside of a BIG piece of pipe?FullySilenced wrote:the metal pin clips could in most cases be re-purposed and usually instead of a metal pin a piece of rawhide lacing .... a really hard stiff piece is used as a pin...
I didn't see a live center hopefully you have one and some center drills as well
Did you get any Armstrong style tool holders for the tool post? Usually that lathe uses a 1/4" holder up to a 5/16 square tool bit... and maybe 1/2" or 5/8" tall parting tools and holders..
Lathes are not a dangerous as depicted in the earlier posts if you use basic safety and common sense.... just don't leave a chuck wrench in the chuck, or grab the chips with your hands use a chip brush... wear safety glasses and no gloves or loose clothing while your running the lathe... spinning metal and fingers don't mingle very well the metal always wins...
Google lathe safety... or i can find you some links if need be....
found an old video almost made about the lathe you have...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5pjWkJ9ewU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn9HJfy33eA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow more modern video on an old style flat belt lathe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST3oTyGhck4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow very basic lathe safety
Threw this one in to show you a keyways can be cut or even a gear if the need really arises and you want to go to the effort. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qta82yOtUk4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow cutting a spur gear
there are tons of videos on youtube..
FS
Don't know what a "Armstrong style tool holder" is yet, but I got a "lantern" tool holder and a bunch of cutting tools that that clamp inside it, and are different shapes of tool and carbide steel. Also a parting tool, knurling tool and some other things that I suspect what they do, but don't know their name.
Your absolutely right about the video's on you tube
Many of the best one's are in black and white. And were made by South Bend somewhere around WW2
It's crazy the amount of info out there, Bet our grampa would have loved to watch the videos with a beer in hand
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Re: Bought a 60 year old metal lathe
No problem with the time management, I'm old, retired and don't fornicate as often as I once did.Truckinbutch wrote:You are going to have a serious dilemma with time management between two such engrossing hobbies as stillin and machine shop work.