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Bought the international body from someone who imports from america, married onto a chassis from an old 1972 v6 3 litre ford essex engined scimitar. rebiult engine etc. got a fair way to go yet building it for my boy. its gonna be his first car. Hope he takes his time his mother will not be happy.lol. Once it warms up a bit will get back on it.but just getting into all grain and as it goes its taking most of my time up at moment.Barney
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An old 390 in that would be hot
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yes mate a 390 would be great. its hard getting stuff in uk. i would give anything to live in america. The cars and engines are amazing, you cant drive down the road for a test drive without unwanted attention. if you where to drive down the road to try the engine , you would lose the car. anyway thanks for looking . barney
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Great looking project truck. Good luck with your progress.
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One of my potential projects has been to convert my old Chevy 4x4 into an off-road dragon slayer. I've drawn some differing potential looks, for its final exterior. While browsing “Pinterest” pictures one day, I found this image of an off-road pickup. I pinned it to my computer's Desktop as I sometimes do, so that I could look at it again, before it got filed away and forgotten within a folder of hundreds or thousands of other pictures...
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This particular picture stayed on top of the Desktop screen for several weeks (a long time considering). My appreciation for the the amount of work that went into the project grew. From what I could tell from the image, the undercarriage looked modern and sophisticated - probably a “rock-crawler” suspension. If that much money was spent on the suspension then naturally you would suspect that the engine would be “cherried-out” too. The proportions of step-sided, short-bed, short wheel base, large tires and fender flair all balanced out well with each other cosmetically. The wood “cattle rack” adds a nice touch as does the green/black rusted patina look; although that is not a finish that I might have chosen. All in all, a polished look.
It occurred to me that the cab must have been lowered, and if so then a new windshield and door windows must have been fabricated. I began searching for pictures of old pickup trucks, to determine what year this model was. I'm a child of the 60's; so while I have a fair knowledge of cars and trucks made between 1950 and 1980, the details of automobiles made outside that range I've generally ignored. I knew at least enough to suspect though, that the cab belonged to the 1930's.
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I searched until I was blue in the face but found no match. That's because (as I now suspect) the image in the first picture is of a damn radio controlled toy... I wasted much time searching, before coming to that embarrassing conclusion. Finally I used a bit of 'GOOGLE-FU' where the image in question is itself selected for inquiry - which led to the revelation that its source came from rccrawler.com (RC = radio controlled). There's actually a crowd of people today, that spend their entire earnings to fabricating their dream (life sized) off-road rock crawler. Once in the woods and camping, they'll then bring out their little toys too. When not in lawn chairs drinking beer around the campfire, grown adults will spend time steering their pricey little RC 4x4's through the mud and trees.
The last three images in the composite picture above, prove that one must be cautious before trusting any kind of Internet information. The black pickup in the lower left corner was labeled as a “1935 Ford” when this image was captured. The identical vehicle though was labeled as a Dodge ram on other sites. The next two images to the right, look identical except for paint jobs; yet one was labeled “1935 Ford 4x4” and the other “GMC Pickup”.
This last composite picture below is of odds and ends, left over from image searching. The “rat-rods” at top are curious. They've taken Army Jeeps and converted them into something that couldn't negotiate a speed bump in the parking lot of a shopping mall.
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This particular picture stayed on top of the Desktop screen for several weeks (a long time considering). My appreciation for the the amount of work that went into the project grew. From what I could tell from the image, the undercarriage looked modern and sophisticated - probably a “rock-crawler” suspension. If that much money was spent on the suspension then naturally you would suspect that the engine would be “cherried-out” too. The proportions of step-sided, short-bed, short wheel base, large tires and fender flair all balanced out well with each other cosmetically. The wood “cattle rack” adds a nice touch as does the green/black rusted patina look; although that is not a finish that I might have chosen. All in all, a polished look.
It occurred to me that the cab must have been lowered, and if so then a new windshield and door windows must have been fabricated. I began searching for pictures of old pickup trucks, to determine what year this model was. I'm a child of the 60's; so while I have a fair knowledge of cars and trucks made between 1950 and 1980, the details of automobiles made outside that range I've generally ignored. I knew at least enough to suspect though, that the cab belonged to the 1930's.
. . .
I searched until I was blue in the face but found no match. That's because (as I now suspect) the image in the first picture is of a damn radio controlled toy... I wasted much time searching, before coming to that embarrassing conclusion. Finally I used a bit of 'GOOGLE-FU' where the image in question is itself selected for inquiry - which led to the revelation that its source came from rccrawler.com (RC = radio controlled). There's actually a crowd of people today, that spend their entire earnings to fabricating their dream (life sized) off-road rock crawler. Once in the woods and camping, they'll then bring out their little toys too. When not in lawn chairs drinking beer around the campfire, grown adults will spend time steering their pricey little RC 4x4's through the mud and trees.
The last three images in the composite picture above, prove that one must be cautious before trusting any kind of Internet information. The black pickup in the lower left corner was labeled as a “1935 Ford” when this image was captured. The identical vehicle though was labeled as a Dodge ram on other sites. The next two images to the right, look identical except for paint jobs; yet one was labeled “1935 Ford 4x4” and the other “GMC Pickup”.
This last composite picture below is of odds and ends, left over from image searching. The “rat-rods” at top are curious. They've taken Army Jeeps and converted them into something that couldn't negotiate a speed bump in the parking lot of a shopping mall.
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Its blustery and uncomfortable outside today. I cant get interested in talking about liquor subjects, until someone else brings up a topic that perks my interest. So as I sip this homemade “Sudo-Grappa” and look out the window, I did a little research into Krupp steel. One discovery lead to another, as it often does.
I was under the impression that much of Krupp's ore came from Sweden; but as yet haven't determined if so or how much. I was distracted. For example I ran across this short video of a remarkable truck (or perhaps more properly called a tug or an artillery tractor) made by Krupp-Daimler, over a century ago. You would be very hard put to match its off road capability with any modern 4x4 truck that you can purchase today.
Krupp-Daimler KD1 Kraftzugmaschine 1917-19
It had some articulation in the frame, which was a sophisticated feature for that day and age. It used wooden spoked artillery type wagon wheels (as did the Model T's) and no rubber tires; because the English Navy blockaded the sea lanes. (The Germans had to make gunpowder and explosives from atmospheric nitrogen during this same time frame – for the same reason; blockade of nitrates from S. America).
Anyway quoting another re reference: “For driving on smooth or rough ground, the wheels were fitted with shovellike grippers. With the help of a winch on the rear of the vehicle, the unhooked gun trailer could be towed up grades of as much as 45°. During the First World War 1070 of these tractors were manufactured and 855 were delivered to the German Army before the end of the war”.
Also, the maximum speed of this 'Kraftzugmaschine' was about 22mph.
Not that American military trucks 100 years ago were any faster. Although American soldiers only fought in the last year or so of 'The Great War”, American aid to the Allies, in the form of guns, food, and machinery was abundant. American trucks working for allies near the battlefront were highly praised. Especially makes like FWD, Kelly-Springfield and Mac.
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Over the early years of the 20th century, there were a bewildering number of American automotive manufactures. Most have come and gone. Just look at this of Trucks and Delivery Cars Manufactured in the United States - in just the year 1917.
I didn't look into how many trucks were shipped across the ocean back then. But such information about World War II is a little easier to find. Most but not all of the following was shipped overseas during WW2. Between 1941 and 1945: 613,427 Jeeps were produced (277k Ford / 335k Willys). Also more than a quarter million (260k) ¾ ton Dodge carryall type trucks and 562,750 “deuce and a half'” s (2 ½ ton 6x6) trucks made by GMC. That count does not include another 200,000+ 2 ½ ton trucks made by Studebaker and REO – (that were sent “Lend-Lease” to the Soviets, mostly).
Couple videos for the road.
1917 Federal truck first engine startup
Wilson video
I was under the impression that much of Krupp's ore came from Sweden; but as yet haven't determined if so or how much. I was distracted. For example I ran across this short video of a remarkable truck (or perhaps more properly called a tug or an artillery tractor) made by Krupp-Daimler, over a century ago. You would be very hard put to match its off road capability with any modern 4x4 truck that you can purchase today.
Krupp-Daimler KD1 Kraftzugmaschine 1917-19
It had some articulation in the frame, which was a sophisticated feature for that day and age. It used wooden spoked artillery type wagon wheels (as did the Model T's) and no rubber tires; because the English Navy blockaded the sea lanes. (The Germans had to make gunpowder and explosives from atmospheric nitrogen during this same time frame – for the same reason; blockade of nitrates from S. America).
Anyway quoting another re reference: “For driving on smooth or rough ground, the wheels were fitted with shovellike grippers. With the help of a winch on the rear of the vehicle, the unhooked gun trailer could be towed up grades of as much as 45°. During the First World War 1070 of these tractors were manufactured and 855 were delivered to the German Army before the end of the war”.
Also, the maximum speed of this 'Kraftzugmaschine' was about 22mph.
Not that American military trucks 100 years ago were any faster. Although American soldiers only fought in the last year or so of 'The Great War”, American aid to the Allies, in the form of guns, food, and machinery was abundant. American trucks working for allies near the battlefront were highly praised. Especially makes like FWD, Kelly-Springfield and Mac.
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Over the early years of the 20th century, there were a bewildering number of American automotive manufactures. Most have come and gone. Just look at this of Trucks and Delivery Cars Manufactured in the United States - in just the year 1917.
I didn't look into how many trucks were shipped across the ocean back then. But such information about World War II is a little easier to find. Most but not all of the following was shipped overseas during WW2. Between 1941 and 1945: 613,427 Jeeps were produced (277k Ford / 335k Willys). Also more than a quarter million (260k) ¾ ton Dodge carryall type trucks and 562,750 “deuce and a half'” s (2 ½ ton 6x6) trucks made by GMC. That count does not include another 200,000+ 2 ½ ton trucks made by Studebaker and REO – (that were sent “Lend-Lease” to the Soviets, mostly).
Couple videos for the road.
1917 Federal truck first engine startup
Wilson video
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That is a great project truck!
Always had a thing for old military trucks. This is a truck that was spotted near me.
Always had a thing for old military trucks. This is a truck that was spotted near me.
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cool. good luck with the project!
Me an my brother build some cars, currently working on a 1956 M-100 truck (The Canadian Mercury version of the Ford F-100)
We are going full hand crafted chassis, 4 link rear and IFS with coil over and discs. we stretched the wheel base so the wheels fit in the center of the wheel house (unlike the factory) ...it just looks better, but will ride a bunch smoother as a result. the front sheetmetal (fenders/hood/grille) has been modified to roll forward and tilt on motorized actuators.
Still a long way to go before the interior comes up, but we're thinking grabbing a king ranch interior and making it fit.
fun times building cars.
Me an my brother build some cars, currently working on a 1956 M-100 truck (The Canadian Mercury version of the Ford F-100)
We are going full hand crafted chassis, 4 link rear and IFS with coil over and discs. we stretched the wheel base so the wheels fit in the center of the wheel house (unlike the factory) ...it just looks better, but will ride a bunch smoother as a result. the front sheetmetal (fenders/hood/grille) has been modified to roll forward and tilt on motorized actuators.
Still a long way to go before the interior comes up, but we're thinking grabbing a king ranch interior and making it fit.
fun times building cars.
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56 M100 is a very cool truck! Remember those classic old trucks have very small interiors so measure before you try to fit a modern interior in. Especially seats.HDNB wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:58 pm cool. good luck with the project!
Me an my brother build some cars, currently working on a 1956 M-100 truck (The Canadian Mercury version of the Ford F-100)
We are going full hand crafted chassis, 4 link rear and IFS with coil over and discs. we stretched the wheel base so the wheels fit in the center of the wheel house (unlike the factory) ...it just looks better, but will ride a bunch smoother as a result. the front sheetmetal (fenders/hood/grille) has been modified to roll forward and tilt on motorized actuators.
Still a long way to go before the interior comes up, but we're thinking grabbing a king ranch interior and making it fit.
fun times building cars.
Men were smaller post WW2 due to .... I DONT KNOW BUT THEY WERE JUST SMALLER!
"What harms us is to persist in self deceit and ignorance"
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I’m not an alcoholic! I’m a drunk. Alcoholics go to meetings!